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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:43 pm    Post subject: Feels So Good! Reply with quote

Comebacker here... Got myself a Flugelhorn and was thinking It might be fun to invade the horn section of the band that I work with (as guitar player) and throw 'Feels So Good' into the list... as I was playing along today figuring out the tune I was REALLY surprised at how high the melody is!! Wow, that Chuck is pretty sneaky!! Haha!

Is it just the sound of the Flugelhorn or is it a testament to his playing that just makes it feel... so good??(sorry ) and natural up as high as it is??

I never really noticed it before and was just a bit surprised and impressed.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think for most of us playing trumpet or flugelhorn or cornet, as the case may be, feels good (until it doesn't - the instrument is notoriously treacherous) and that this "feel good" aspect is one of our prime motivators.

Certainly Chuck's rendition of "Feels So Good" is happy and energetic. I agree that it explores a non-typical high range for a melody played on flugelhorn. It's a simple tune but not easy to play in that range.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also got a flugelhorn recently and that was the only piece I knew about so I got it and started tooting. The more I played it the more I liked it... it felt good! I was playing it so much my wife started complaining. I guess she didn't feel as good as I did.

I was surprised how easy up to A is on flugel. It gets pretty hard around C, all the partials seem to smoosh together, but A is no harder than a trumpet A for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbigvtzdWRI
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha...that's funny! Never saw that clip before!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottfsmith wrote:
I was playing it so much my wife started complaining. I guess she didn't feel as good as I did.


Haha... I guess you can't blame her!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feel good thought for the day. I saw Chuck do the tune live many years ago and he had to take a bunch of it down an octave. Live is hard work. Or maybe he was just tired of playing the tune.

It is a challenge to play it so light and easy up there.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuck and several other players in the seventies used Trumpet mouthpieces on flugelhorn. Most fusion or pop players had to to compete with being in high volume levels on stage and often monitor mixes that did not always include them. Only the stars got special treatment in the mix. Sound familiar ?😜
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Feels So Good! Reply with quote

mrhappy wrote:
as I was playing along today figuring out the tune I was REALLY surprised at how high the melody is!! Wow, that Chuck is pretty sneaky!!

Chuck is a heck of a player. Here he is trading licks with Doc.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In an interview, when the subject of Feels So Good, came up, Chuck mused, "I still don't know why I took it so high", and he talked about the problems that came with it. So one is in good company.

FWIW, I used to listen to The Jazz Brothers on the radio back in the 60s.

Killer group:
Chuck Mangione - Trumpet, Gerry Niewood - Saxophone, Gap Mangione - Rhodes, Tony Levin - Bass, Vinnie Ruggiero - drums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0gtCbRIBfo
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Feels So Good! Reply with quote

Robert P wrote:
mrhappy wrote:
as I was playing along today figuring out the tune I was REALLY surprised at how high the melody is!! Wow, that Chuck is pretty sneaky!!

Chuck is a heck of a player. Here he is trading licks with Doc.


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Nice clip and being a guitar player I JUST happen to have a few Wah Wah pedals laying around here someplace!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
In an interview, when the subject of Feels So Good, came up, Chuck mused, "I still don't know why I took it so high",


Funny!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:

FWIW, I used to listen to The Jazz Brothers on the radio back in the 60s.

Killer group:
Chuck Mangione - Trumpet, Gerry Niewood - Saxophone, Gap Mangione - Rhodes, Tony Levin - Bass, Vinnie Ruggiero - drums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0gtCbRIBfo


Wow... that was a very interesting clip!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac Gollehon wrote:
Chuck and several other players in the seventies used Trumpet mouthpieces on flugelhorn. Most fusion or pop players had to to compete with being in high volume levels on stage and often monitor mixes that did not always include them. Only the stars got special treatment in the mix. Sound familiar ?😜

In my experience flugels play lousy with trumpet mouthpieces. I've never seen any experienced player do it, and I kind of doubt it actually would facilitate the upper register.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several players were definitely using trumpet mouthpieces on Flugelhorns back in the 70's here in NYC.


Bob Giardinelli had his mouthpiece guys make some 1C - 7C 2 piece trumpet mouthpieces on Flugel shanks with large throats. I think 20-18 throats were used. They were used primarily in the Broadway pits and in big band sections.


I tried some of them in the early 80's and liked them with my Besson Fluegl at the time. Some players were also using Benge Mello 6 mouthpieces with the shank shaved to fit Yamaha Flugels.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just also bought the Chuck M. playalong - I too was surprised at the high notes. I listened to a ton of it back in the 70's & 80's and it was so soft and easy I didn't realize the range. My range isn't there yet, so will have to put it on the shelf a while.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50YrComeback wrote:
I listened to a ton of it back in the 70's & 80's and it was so soft and easy I didn't realize the range.


Yes exactly!!
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