• FAQ  • Search  • Memberlist  • Usergroups   • Register   • Profile  • Log in to check your private messages  • Log in 

Pain in Mid t Low Throat when playing above "Hi C"



 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Fundamentals
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
dmazepink
New Member


Joined: 07 Jan 2019
Posts: 4
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject: Pain in Mid t Low Throat when playing above "Hi C" Reply with quote

Upper register playing develops muscle pain in mid to lower throat. Remedy? My guess is constricting throat to get faster air flow. If you have had a similar experience, could you share that with any corrective actions?
_________________
Schilke B5
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lionel
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 25 Jul 2016
Posts: 783

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Pain in Mid t Low Throat when playing above "Hi C&q Reply with quote

dmazepink wrote:
Upper register playing develops muscle pain in mid to lower throat. Remedy? My guess is constricting throat to get faster air flow. If you have had a similar experience, could you share that with any corrective actions?


I guess my history qualifies as having experience in this matter. Some 20+ years ago I sustained a serious neckpuff injury. Was due directly to my playing loud extremely high sustained notes during a big band rehearsal. I can still remember the chart. That and the day of the month, week and year!! The situation was both frightening and even harmed my overall health. Forget about trumpet playing and high notes...

I couldn't even blow my nose! That and just swallowing hurt too. And at least for the first week or so afterwards even merely talking was painful. Esp talking loudly. Hurt like the Dickens.

Fortunately I had a set of "Neck Puff Eradication Exercises" as published in the late Dr Donald Reinhardt's "Encyclopedia Of The Pivot System". And while Trumpetherald does have a whole forum dedicated to the described book? I'm not sure if their forum has any discussion directly on this subject.

Regardless? I believe that all trumpet players who aspire to learn how to blow high notes really ought to at least learn the neckpuff eradication exercises. Whether they use them or not. Basically these practice exercises develop your throat muscles. Esp around the Adam's Apple. And when these muscles get stronger (from exercise) you can contract them in preparation of the air pressure inside your mouth stretching the cartilage from high internal air pressure.

This is probably what is happening to you now dmazepink. Your throat cartilage is getting stretched out by the increase in air pressure and it hurts a bit. . Dizzy played this way his whole life. In fact I did too but only up until roughly the late '90's.

From that point on I had strengthened my throat muscles so much that I can easily prevent any expansion when blowing high notes. Feel free to contact me via P/M And I will gladly describe what I did. That and what I can remember about Reinhardt's "Neck Puff Eradication Exercises". By the way,

If you can find a cooy of Dr Reinhardt's "Encyclopedia Of The Pivot System"?

The neck puff eradication exercises are on pages 69 - 70. Excellent reading.
Best Regards!
Lionel
_________________
"Check me if I'm wrong Sandy but if I kill all the golfers they're gonna lock me up & throw away the key"!

Carl Spackler (aka Bill Murray, 1980).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lionel
Heavyweight Member


Joined: 25 Jul 2016
Posts: 783

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dmazepink,
FYI,

An email has been sent your way with a fairly extensive explanation of throat pain caused by the high note neck puff. That and the exercises designed to cure the puff. Good luck!

By the way?
I've even seen bassoonists puff their own throats. As per Humphrey Bogart?

"I schtick my neck out for nobody"
_________________
"Check me if I'm wrong Sandy but if I kill all the golfers they're gonna lock me up & throw away the key"!

Carl Spackler (aka Bill Murray, 1980).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rich O
New Member


Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 10
Location: Swanzey, NH

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to second the recommendation of Lionel, based upon my own experience. I injured my neck while taking lessons from Roy Stevens in the 70s. I had to lay off for a while, and saw a throat specialist, who was no help. I used the neck exercises in the Pivot System book, and gradually was able to play without pain. They made all the difference.

In my case, the forward jaw position I was trying to learn was a contributing factor, because my neck is much more solid feeling in my natural receded position. So, I also went back to my natural jaw position, and have played for decades without pain.
Good luck.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    trumpetherald.com Forum Index -> Fundamentals All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group