Trumpet with a Bright Sound

trumpetom2 · Regular Member Joined: 02 Feb 2017 Posts: 52

Considerung vintage trumpets I can vote for the original King Silver Flair.
Pretty bright and responsive. Quite a good lead horn as well.
New trumpets would include the Callet Superchops or Studio Artist.
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JeffM729 · Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:04 am Post subject:

Over the years the Getzen Severinsen, Bach 72*, and Yamaha 8310Z have got the bright sound needed to play in big band settings for me.

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Ozzbo · Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:39 pm Post subject:

From my current collection, the brightest are: Benge CG ('77), King Golden Flair ('75), Conn 60B ('69), Conn 28B ('55), Conn 8B ('75), Kanstul 990 (original nickel Mariachi), and Selmer Radial ML ('72).

From the past: Benge 2X & 5X, King 2006 ('82), Bach 43 ('85), Getzen Eterna, Kanstul 1502, Hopf Starmaster (Germany), Schenklaars Prestige (Holland), Lawler 21B.

Ozzbo · Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:41 pm Post subject:

From my current collection, the brightest are: Benge CG ('77), King Golden Flair ('75), Conn 60B ('69), Conn 28B ('55), Conn 8B ('75), Kanstul 990 (original nickel Mariachi), and Selmer Radial ML ('72).

From the past: Benge 2X & 5X, King 2006 ('82), Bach 43 ('85), Getzen Eterna, Kanstul 1502, Hopf Starmaster (Germany), Schenklaars Prestige (Holland), Lawler 21B.

stumac · Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:27 pm Post subject:

The brightest by far is my Olds CHR, outshines the Eclipse MS and Conn 40B.

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stevericks · Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Trumpet with a Bright Sound

kramergfy · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:53 pm Post subject:

Conn 24b. Tiny bell, small bore, tight blow, but the brightest Bb sound of them all. I would start here; then scale it back. You won’t find anything brighter than this. A Bach 25, Benge 2x, Yamaha z, or a Calicchio 1s will all seem much darker in comparison.
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adagiotrumpet · Heavyweight Member Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 903

I may have missed it scanning all the responses, but I would suggest a Schilke B2 hands down. My son tends to have a big, full dark, sound and when he wanted to get a brighter sound, he went straight for the B2 and is currently using it on the road. I would also suggest finding a bright mouthpiece to match the horn. I do all my commercial work on a Schilke B3, which is the large bore version of the medium large B2. I have found that Warburton S and ES cups work really well with the Schilkes as do the Giddings S cups. Reeves and Schilke have many choices for bright sounding mouthpieces.

kehaulani · Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:41 pm Post subject:

In case it matters, the OP was in February.
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delano · Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:41 am Post subject:

And of course has run for his life!

MalinTrumpet · Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:04 am Post subject: Bright

I recently purchased a 1941 22B. Bright, bright, bright...
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american boy · Veteran Member Joined: 22 Sep 2012 Posts: 344 Location: ny

I borrowed a students Schilke B1 Berrylium Trumpet once to try out on a pretty loud salsa gig and loved that horn;I was playing a 43 Bach at the time, and the schilke made the night a walk in the park;Yes it was brighter then the Bach for sure, but not too bright;Just easier; Pitch felt great, response great;I would say as a bell to mic horn that's one to try out..Still love the Bach for unamplified gigs

Brassnose · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:47 am Post subject:

Returning an old-ish thread back to life. Starting this fall, after summer break and the like is over, I’ll find myself in a large, ca. 30 piece Fela-Kuti-style afrobeat/dance-funk band with two other trumpets, a gazillion saxophones, and loads of percussion.

Now, this is a loud and somewhat unbalanced environment due to the fact that there are only three trumpets and many saxophones. My very lightweight Schmidt rotary likely won’t do the trick in terms of presence and carrying power and my Bach may be too „classical“ still. The heavy 43GH bell and the 43 leadpipe don’t obviously lend themselves to afrobeat/funk style playing (although, before the internet days I did that, of course …).

Of course the band uses microphones, but still, being a player with a rather dark and warm sound generally, I am using this opportunity to ponder trumpets (yes, I know I wrote in another thread that I don’t need another horn

).

Sooo, been thinking about what trumpet would help in terms of really bright sound (don’t want to go into mouthpieces here, been there before).

Boundary conditions:

- I live in Europe and Benges are pretty rare here + I have never liked the rather long throw of the Benge valves.
- same goes for Calicchios, extremely hard to find over here
- Not a fan of Kanstul in general, pretty rare as well
- not a fan of the newer Yamahas, but I really like the old three-digit model horns
- looking for bright and focused rather than big, fat sound (I have that in my Bach)
- had a couple horn repairs lately so looking vintage/used

Options I gathered from this thread and from other sources so far:

Benge, Calicchio (see above)
Stomvi VRII and S3 (probably even more difficult to find than the above)
Getzen Eterna & Eterna Severinsen (mixed feelings so far, those that I could play felt a little odd, stuffy, …)
Various Schilkes (yes, that’s an option, really like the B6, never played an S series horn)
Various Olds horns (possible, they do show up over here, mainly Recordings, Specials, Studios at the moment)
Various Conn horns (the older ones are extremely rare over here, how about a 6B or 38B? Those do show up)
King 1055 Silver Flair
Conn 60B
Conn 52B (really like that one)
Yamaha 3335 (is said to be loud and bright-ish on the German TF)
Selmer Radial (although to me they didn’t sound brighter to me than my Bach)
Selmer DeVille
Blessing Super Artist (?)
Jupiter (?)
Carol Brass (?)

Sorry for the long winded post; I guess I am just asking which vintage/used/affordable horn would help me get a bright and brilliant sound and would be efficient enough for 2-3 hour afrobeat/funk/rock-ish gigs.

Or should I just put a nickel silver leadpipe and tuning slide on my Bach (the leadpipe is rotting out anyway and will need a replacement at some point)?
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Dayton · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:09 am Post subject:

Brassnose · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:47 am Post subject:

Thanks, I did in fact look at a B4, which is the M bore sister of the B2. Also played a Yamaha 634 (B5 „equivalent“) recently and quite liked it. Light and extremely responsive, although a little dark for what I am looking for. Great horn nonetheless.

And yes, I have a set of AR backbores to play with. On my C is use an L backbore and an ME cup in bronze; on the Bach I use a nickel silver ME cup and XS backbore. This is my favorite piece at the moment and I’d use that as a starting point for the current quest as well. It is, and that is the interesting point, an extremely versatile mouthpiece and also does classical and ballad stuff very well. But when you step on the gas it does have an exquisite power to the sound. Nice.

I did own a GR65SZ but foolishly sold it, this would be a good piece to add some bite, too.
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2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
1992 Bach 43GH/43
1989 Kühnl & Hoyer Model 15 flugel
1980/2023 Custom Blessing Scholastic C 😎
1977 Conn 6B
1951 Buescher 400 Lightweight
AR Resonance, Frate, Klier