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BrassmanBob New Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:20 am Post subject: Classical crossover, classical-pop fusion |
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Who are some good trumpeters to listen to in the styles of classical crossover, classical-pop fusion?
I love traditional classical and jazz trumpet. Some of my favorites are Miles Davis, Louis Armstrong, Dizzy Gillespie, Auturo Sandoval, Doc Severinsen, Chris Botti, Adam Rapa, Sergei Nakariakov, Allison Balson, and Tine Thing Helseth.
I am also a huge fan of Dixieland and Western Swing trumpeters Al Hirt and Danny Davis.
But I am also really into acts such as the Piano Guys and Lindsay Sterling. Are there any trumpeters out there that fit that mold? _________________ BrassMan Bob |
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Raya2 Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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There are a few that come to mind:
- Thomas Gansch from Mnozil Brass
- Marco Pierobon from Gomalan Brass
- Jose Sibaja from Boston Brass
Great all around players, worth listening to. _________________ ----
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BrassmanBob New Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Raya2. I'll check those guys out. _________________ BrassMan Bob |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:43 am Post subject: |
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I'm a little confused. Are you asking about players who can play classical and pop music, both, or are you asking about pop trumpet players? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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blbaumgarn Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:11 pm Post subject: classical crossover, classical-pop fusion |
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If you are naming fusion as one source I believe Bill Chase was one who had that hard driving style in the seventies. Maynard had quite a few tracks that were very nearly rock and he also had tracks like Pagliacci as he respected the classics. I like everyone on your list. One thing about a topic like yours is we can always find more musicians we like that play predominantly in a certain style. _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush |
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kgsmith1 Regular Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2019 Posts: 73 Location: Greater Chicago
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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There are "crossover" players who have a personal brand as such, often recording as virtuoso soloists. Doc Severinson has been mentioned, Rafael Mendez comes to mind too.
There's another category though that I really admire: players you could call for a world class performance in almost any style. (often, studio players, since TV and movies have the budget, and the styles of the scores vary widely. In one day the same player might record on sight playing lead in a big band and section in an orchestra - not like the typical symphony gig where you rehearse for a week and switch over to the "pops" stuff in late spring.)
As an 80s kid I wanted to sound like Derek Watkins (50 years of James Bond) and Malcolm McNab (seemingly every other movie, Jurassic Park for instance) but had no idea who they were back then. There are others everyone has heard many times even if they didn't know who was playing because they can fit into so many styles: Wilmer Wise, Bob Findley, Vince DiMartino. Old school radio orchestra players like Don Jacoby.
Players with this level of versatility can be great models for style and technique, not to mention they're fun to listen to. The craft that goes into this sort of playing isn't always flashy, but it is the professionalism and artistry everyone wants in their section. |
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LaTrompeta Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Adam Rapa _________________ Please join me as well at:
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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kg, funny you should mention Don Jacoby. I wore the record below out, when I was a kid. Later crossed paths with Jake at North Texas.
https://youtu.be/uBXzw7Llhpk
I may have told this before, but one day he was sitting in with the One O'clock. On one tune he had an ad-lib solo in a God awful key. I think it may have been a put-up job. Anyway, when the solo came up, Jake reached across his horn and pulled he tuning slide out, putting it in an easier key, played the solo then put the slide back in it's original position. Looked absolutely nonchalant. I'm sure to one-up anyone who was watching, LOL. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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kgsmith1 Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Kehaulani - interesting, thanks for sharing.
Funny that one of my assumptions about this sort of musician is that they're fluent in any key, any transposition, etc...
From your story it sounds like he would have been as likely to complain "kids these days don't know how long an A crook is" vs. "kids these days can't play in d# minor".
Always humbling to be reminded there's more skill/knowledge out there that could help on the job. I'm sure he knew d# minor too so he had the choice in approach - I wouldn't have thought to adjust my slides. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Jake was just pulling people's legs. He could play in Z. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Rapier232 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Lovatt is a player that can do it all. Plays on film scores, backs big singing stars, plays in big bands, orchestras and jazz bands. His solo album, 52 North, is one of my favourites. _________________ "Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be".
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BrassmanBob New Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone for your input and suggestions. And sorry I am so late responding. I didn't mean to abandon this thread like that. I always love discovering new people to listen to.
kehaulani, in response to your original question, why I personally describe as classical crossover or classical pop fusion is one of vcd 4 things. 1 and 2, someone who adds classical styling to pop and rock songs, such as 2Cello, or adds pop/rock styling to classical pieces, like Vanessa Mae, someone who blends the 2, like the piano guys, or someone who does original compositions with elements of both.
2 trumpeters that I've really been digging since discovering them are Adam Rapa and Charlie Porter. _________________ BrassMan Bob |
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adagiotrumpet Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:41 am Post subject: |
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What about Mark Inouye? Terrific jazz player and Principal Trumpet with the San Francisco Symphony. Also, Jens Lindemann certainly has great classical credentials and yet at the last ITG held his own taking a few choruses. |
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BrassmanBob New Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:47 am Post subject: |
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I'll check them out. Thanks for the recommendations _________________ BrassMan Bob |
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Allen Vizzuti's album "Skyrocket" and his song "Fire Dance," which I've only heard in live settings. _________________ 1932 King Silvertone cornet
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