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jhatpro
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Class of ‘95.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They run a special program every year in which local folks can sign up to be "plebes for a day" to help the seniors in charge of Cadet Basic get ready to be drillmasters. I did it once while I was researching a story.

One day of being a Plebe was enough for me. Props to your son.

I was working up in the Syracuse area by the time he got there but I did cover a Colgate game at Michie Stadium he likely suited up for in '93. No better place for college football in the country.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We loved tailgating there! Terrific bands, too. I remember donating a big band chart, Revenge of the Cow, which of course is a reference to what West Pointers call juniors.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He picked the silver one!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhatpro wrote:
He picked the silver one!

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Grandpa the hero!

I play-tested some of those Conn Severinsen horns back in the '80s when I was teaching. I was very impressed. They felt like kind of a hybrid between a free-blowing Strad and the old Severinsen Getzen. I didn't hesitate to recommend them to my students (or their parents).

So are you going to add the lacquered one to your arsenal?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Bryan!

I'm offering the lacquer one for what I paid for it to a guy in one of the big bands I play in. His current horn is a beater and he needs something better but he's on a tight budget.

It will be a great upgrade for him (and help the section, too!)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't buy.. rent. Find out who supplies the rentals for his school and set him up with a beginner model.. Then it comes with maintenance, lubes, etc. Let him learn on an instrument that can handle a beginner. It will get dropped, bounced, have something fall on in and won't get oiled or greased for months at a time..

Then as he matures and improves (early H.S.) give him the Bach or other "pro" horn
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent advice for most parents/grandparents, especially those with little or no knowledge of trumpets and trumpet playing.

In my case,howeve, I wanted to become more involved. Ben lives in California and I don't see him as often as I'd like so I wanted to do something more personal than suggesting his parents rent a horn.

Also, I really enjoyed finding a good used horn for him and setting him up with mouthpiece, cleaning supplies, straight mute, beginning book. Just seeing the look on his face when he picked the horn up for the first time was priceless!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a sweet card from my grandson today. Sounds like he's off to a good start!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best grandpa of the world !!! well done.
Yesterday I replace the old 7C of my son with a brand new Reeves 43D , you have to see his face , it was the happiest teenager of the world , plus his sound is bigger , it dont miss notes and have improve his range.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He cleans it every day! No red rot!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jhatpro has solved his dilemma, but that's not going to stop me from reflecting on my first year on trumpet, in 4th grade, 50 yrs ago...

This was in an up-scale community. We all started out with school instruments. Everybody was DEFINITELY checking out what horns their peers got, but there were only two considerations: Was the horn shiny and fairly new looking (the case, too) and did the valves work okay.

I'm headed on a rant now, but we live in a new age of affluence. When I went through school, nobody had a top-quality horn until one guy got one in the 10th grade. By my senior year, still only 2-3 guys had them. It wasn't until college that I was able to use some insurance settlement money to buy a Getzen.

If somebody has a nice horn lying around and wants to let a kid use it (or own it), I certainly have no problem with that, but unless the kid is really serious about music, I don't get why a parent would BUY a pro-quality horn for some kid that doesn't appreciate it and can't take advantage of it... and yet I see this happen a lot. What kind of message does that send?

Also, get off of my lawn.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other side of the coin, I don’t see why a parent stick their child with a substandard horn if they can afford a good one and believe their child will take care of it.

I got a new Bach Strad as a freshman in high school in ‘72. Used it in stage band, concert and marching band in high school. Not a mark on it.

Oddly enough it wasn’t until I was in college in the TV studio waiting to go on live when I dropped it bell down on concrete.

My son got one to use at home and for concerts at about the same age. His daily horn for school was an Eterna in good shape.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We’re visiting our grandson and his fam in California and I brought along a horn so I could give him a few tips before his first band rehearsal next week.

We worked on buzzing a soft low C together and then did some tone matching on our horns. And I told him my best advice is to always listen - listen to his sound, to the rest of the band, to the director, and to as many good trumpet players as he can find on iTunes and YouTube.

And, course, I told him to have fun!

(Oh, to be 12 again!)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve had a lot of fun playing along with my grandson in Charlotte. I just wish we lived closer together.
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