Doubling

Dennis78 · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:54 am Post subject: Doubling

This season I’ll be playing baritone with the brass band. Band providing a Besson 955. Seems like a great instrument.

Just looking for any advice. Been shedding as much as possible. I’m excited about this new venture
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tomba51 · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Doubling

JayKosta · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:33 pm Post subject:

I believe the 955 is a 3-valve compensating instrument, so that should help with the tuning of multi-valve combinations . You will have to get used to the amount of valve up/down movement, and find a comfortable position to hold it.

For best tuning, I suggest playing scales in various major keys in order to hear (not by electronic tuner) if there are any odd sounding 'between note' intervals. It might be necessary to make small adjustments to the individual valve slides in order to find a setting that gives the best compromise.

Jay
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Dennis78 · Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:57 pm Post subject:

Thanks.
I did put the trumpet to my lips today and man it felt small!
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Dutch Guy · Regular Member Joined: 22 Aug 2019 Posts: 28

I'm a trumpet player and have started playing the trombone for the 3 years.

The most important thing: keeping your chops and technique takes twice as long when you play 2 instruments. What I mean with that is: Practicing one does not necessarily benefit the other too. You need to practice both. What often happens is that both instruments get half the practice time, and that's detrimental.

How you do it is up to you. Some people play both during the same practice session. I don't. On one day I usually only play 1 instrument, sometimes a single session of the 2nd because I have to master certain parts quickly, but usually I do one. Next day it's the other one.

mm55 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1412

I got a good tip from "Iron Mike" Bogart at a TOP clinic some years ago.

Whenever you play the trombone (or in your case, euphonium), finish the session by playing the trumpet. End every practice session on trumpet, and warm-down on trumpet after trombone gigs. That advice has served me well. I also begin every day on trumpet.

I may not be among the best trumpet players, even less so on trombone, but when I take the low road once a year on euphonium, and trombone once in a while, I can switch back and forth readily, without causing any [additional] problems with my trumpet embouchure.
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starkadder · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 542

It will help you learn to move air, which will improve your sound..

It will also give you another sound concept.

Brassnose · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:09 am Post subject:

There was a very similar thread not too long ago. I double a lot on bass trumpet - in fact I said in the other thread that I am now a bass trumpet player doubling on trumpet. Works very well for me and I have benefitted a lot from switching between the two horns - air, tongue, intonation, you name it ...
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spitvalve · Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:54 am Post subject:

I used to double on Superbone. It took a few weeks to acclimate, but eventually I reached the point where I could play both horns on the same gig, sometimes even switching on the same tune a'la James Morrison/Mic Gillette (no, I didn't sound like either of those guys!).

I spent about a third of my practice time on the Superbone and managed to develop passable technique and a decent sound. It was fun.

Unfortunately I only have time for the trumpet now; I sold the Superbone many years ago. I still have a beater Olds Ambassador tenor trombone but it's pretty sad when I try to play it.
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Dennis78 · Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:50 pm Post subject:

So far so good. Practiced my tail off and audition went very well! Luckily in a BBB all the music is in treble clef so I can read it. Definitely a different animal but I’m excited about this season
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