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maynard-46 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:14 am Post subject: Till Bronner Equipment |
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Usually I don't get in to this stuff but this time curiosity has gotten the best of me! I've been listening to ALOT of Till Bronner and love the guys' sound. Does anybody know what gear he uses? Trumpet, flugel and mouthpiece???
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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markp Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Is that one of those Yamaha models that you can't get in the U.S.? |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:45 am Post subject: |
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I dont now but even in EU is some kind of rare horn, I never play one but as far I now is Bobby Shew model with some modifications.
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delano Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Certainly no Bobby Shew (no stepbore, no 72 bell and so on), I played one years ago, liked it very much but everybody advised against it: thin sound, tight in the upper register. For me, I thought the sound was excellent and the horn played very good but I was inexperienced and had no upper register at all then so I let go.
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Is a lite horn or standard weight the bell is like the 6335 bell ?
I remembered from a friend that it was a step bore but probably I was wrong. _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
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Didymus Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:26 am Post subject: Brönner's secret weapon. |
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I read somewhere that Till Brönner's secret is that he uses the Whisper Penny.
(Really, I jest.)
I'm pretty sure he currently uses and endorses Yamahas. A 6000 series named after him and the Shew flügel, to be exact.
In the past he used a vintage Martin and an Inderbinen flügelhorn.
I don't know which mouthpiece he prefers. And like I wrote above, I'm not serious about the Whisper Penny. _________________ Enjoy the journey. |
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austincustombrass Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Till has been playing a Bach trumpet lately and a Yamaha flugel.
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delano Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:32 am Post subject: |
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The Z horn is a medium (step) bore horn with a big 5 inch bell, lightweight, no brace in the tuning slide, reversed leadpipe. The 6330B is a ML horn with a two piece (no 6335) 123 mm bell, brace in the tuning slide, medium (standard) weight and indeed a reversed leadpipe. |
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delano Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:37 am Post subject: |
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And I still believe the new 6335RC is a further developed Brönner horn with another (goldbrass) bell, |
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Def Trumpet Veteran Member
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Roel Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:14 am Post subject: |
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delano wrote: | And I still believe the new 6335RC is a further developed Brönner horn with another (goldbrass) bell, |
The RC has a red brass bell (90% CU), not gold brass (85%)
Somehow I believe that the RC is a little bit like the 3335, a student trumpet that is played by Andy Haderer. But that may be total nonsense. _________________ Adams A8 - Kanstul M-B5 P
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Roel wrote: | delano wrote: | And I still believe the new 6335RC is a further developed Brönner horn with another (goldbrass) bell, |
The RC has a red brass bell (90% CU), not gold brass (85%)
Somehow I believe that the RC is a little bit like the 3335, a student trumpet that is played by Andy Haderer. But that may be total nonsense. |
The 6335RC has gold brass bell and is a 6335 body with different bell and new reverse leadpipe, this is the specifications from Thomann site.
Also as far I now red brass and gold brass bell's is the same with 80% brass and copper bell has more brass 90% i believe, correct me if i am wrong.
https://m.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_ytr_6335rc_commercial.htm
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Orban Regular Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yellow brass 70 % copper
Gold brass 85 % copper
Red (or rose) brass 90 % copper
6335RC trumpet = Gold brass bell |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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So what about copper bell's like Getzen new eterna or the 3850 cornet?
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Carol mini pocket
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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giakara wrote: | So what about copper bell's like Getzen new eterna or the 3850 cornet?
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From the Getzen website:
900DLX Eterna "Deluxe" - 4¾" sheet & sheet copper |
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gmaxe Veteran Member
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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LittleRusty wrote: | giakara wrote: | So what about copper bell's like Getzen new eterna or the 3850 cornet?
Regards |
From the Getzen website:
900DLX Eterna "Deluxe" - 4¾" sheet & sheet copper |
I am confused, please some one explain this, until now I was believe that the yellow brass bells had 70% copper the gold or red(rose) brass bells had 80% copper and final the copper bell's had 90% or more copper , I am wrong? please some one clarified and sorry for my terrible English.
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Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
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Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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From the Getzen site , the extra options of the copper bell 3850 cornet.
3850 Options
4¾" Yellow Brass Bell
4¾" Rose Brass Bell
Bright Silver Plate
Hand Engraving
Custom Etching Available
Accessories
24K Gold Plate Trim Kit
If I am right they have 3 bell opinion the standard copper plus rose brass or yellow brass.
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Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
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Getzen eterna 850 cornet
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Yamaha 731 flugel
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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giakara wrote: | LittleRusty wrote: | giakara wrote: | So what about copper bell's like Getzen new eterna or the 3850 cornet?
Regards |
From the Getzen website:
900DLX Eterna "Deluxe" - 4¾" sheet & sheet copper |
I am confused, please some one explain this, until now I was believe that the yellow brass bells had 70% copper the gold or red(rose) brass bells had 80% copper and final the copper bell's had 90% or more copper , I am wrong? please some one clarified and sorry for my terrible English.
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I am not sure what your confusion is so this post might not help.
Getzen offers two bell options on the Eterna deluxe. The 900dlx has a copper bell and is the one I quoted. The 907dlx has a yellow brass bell. |
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