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Jerry Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:21 am Post subject: Schilke X3 Sound Bigger Than B7? |
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The Schilke B7 and the Schilke X3 have the same bell, yes?
The B7 is medium bore .450.
The X3 is large bore .463.
Has anyone listened to both from the bell side to determine if the X3 sounds significantly larger than the B7?
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I’ve owned a B5, B6, S42, S42LJF, S43....but none of those, how about calling Schilke and see what their take is? Those guys are generally very helpful.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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Ed Kennedy Heavyweight Member
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Christian K. Peters Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1530 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:31 pm Post subject: Schilke X3 sound bigger |
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Hello all,
Ed is on it with Steve's demos. Two different venues, but to my ears the B7 a little more intimate, as I think a medium bore should be...Yet a full sound. But you have to give Steve the credit for being an awesome player. Listening to him demo all the horns he has up for sale really gives you the subtle nuances of each horn. He knows that the X3 is bigger and chooses the excerpt that best represents the horn. Schilkes are model sensitive...Each one has its' place. I think for concert band/legit stuff, a ML or L bore would work better than a M bore overall. Lead guys seem to be all over the map with what they like in a horn. IMO. _________________ Christian K. Peters
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9005 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Schilke X3 sound bigger |
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Christian K. Peters wrote: | . . to my ears the B7 a little more intimate . . |
FWIW, I called up Schilke and told them that I was looking for a horn that I could use as a sectionplayer in both concert and big band (no goal of playing lead in either) but one that could act in a combo/jazz setting as a Committee (but with better slotting for the larger ensemble work) and the B7 was recommended to me. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Ed Kennedy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:21 am Post subject: |
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In the late 60's the Minnesota Orchestra trumpet section was playing custom C7's. Many of Chenette's students ordered C7s with optional Bb slides and used them in Bb configuration most of the time in every sort of ensemble.
I knew a fine lead player in Chicago, Boris Steffan, who played a B7L. The B7 is a very versatile horn. |
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BraeGrimes Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Apr 2011 Posts: 269 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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As much as those demos do the horns justice, it's really difficult to compare with the compressed audio you get from recordings like those.
There's sort of no hard-and-fast rule to what will sound 'bigger' - it really depends on your setup. The misconception is that L bores make bigger/broader sounds, but I don't think that's necessarily true at all. I think your mouthpiece setup, and how you play, will effect the breadth of sound more than a bore will (it will, however, sometimes change how you play). |
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