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Schilke X3 Sound Bigger Than B7?



 
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Jerry
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:21 am    Post subject: Schilke X3 Sound Bigger Than B7? Reply with quote

The Schilke B7 and the Schilke X3 have the same bell, yes?
The B7 is medium bore .450.
The X3 is large bore .463.

Has anyone listened to both from the bell side to determine if the X3 sounds significantly larger than the B7?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve owned a B5, B6, S42, S42LJF, S43....but none of those, how about calling Schilke and see what their take is? Those guys are generally very helpful.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C9iJvWf7qs X3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGIz1xzcQo B7
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Schilke X3 sound bigger Reply with quote

Hello all,
Ed is on it with Steve's demos. Two different venues, but to my ears the B7 a little more intimate, as I think a medium bore should be...Yet a full sound. But you have to give Steve the credit for being an awesome player. Listening to him demo all the horns he has up for sale really gives you the subtle nuances of each horn. He knows that the X3 is bigger and chooses the excerpt that best represents the horn. Schilkes are model sensitive...Each one has its' place. I think for concert band/legit stuff, a ML or L bore would work better than a M bore overall. Lead guys seem to be all over the map with what they like in a horn. IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Schilke X3 sound bigger Reply with quote

Christian K. Peters wrote:
. . to my ears the B7 a little more intimate . .

FWIW, I called up Schilke and told them that I was looking for a horn that I could use as a sectionplayer in both concert and big band (no goal of playing lead in either) but one that could act in a combo/jazz setting as a Committee (but with better slotting for the larger ensemble work) and the B7 was recommended to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the late 60's the Minnesota Orchestra trumpet section was playing custom C7's. Many of Chenette's students ordered C7s with optional Bb slides and used them in Bb configuration most of the time in every sort of ensemble.

I knew a fine lead player in Chicago, Boris Steffan, who played a B7L. The B7 is a very versatile horn.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as those demos do the horns justice, it's really difficult to compare with the compressed audio you get from recordings like those.

There's sort of no hard-and-fast rule to what will sound 'bigger' - it really depends on your setup. The misconception is that L bores make bigger/broader sounds, but I don't think that's necessarily true at all. I think your mouthpiece setup, and how you play, will effect the breadth of sound more than a bore will (it will, however, sometimes change how you play).
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