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John Mohan Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 9830 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Scuba Steve wrote: | So, you guys are saying it's all about a little snake oil along with some smoke and mirrors. I thought so. Thank you. |
No, I don't think that is what they are saying, at least not in the absolute terms you have chosen to use.
The Bach company did not throw away all the tooling when they moved to Elkhart, Indiana and then immediately replace it with new tooling. As such, early Elkhart trumpets and mouthpieces were made with most of the same tooling as the later Mt Vernon trumpets and mouthpieces. I'm not sure how many of the craftsmen made the move, but I'm sure there were personnel changes when the move happened, so especially in the case of the trumpets, there were differences right away, but not as much as down the road as worn-out tooling was replaced as needed. I think the differences would be less with the mouthpiece production as that requires less labor and would be less influenced by differences in the craftsman involved.
So early Elkhart trumpets and especially early Elkhart mouthpieces can be considered to be closer in specs to the Mt Vernon trumpets and mouthpieces.
Best wishes,
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Irving Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 1886
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have 3 Mt. Vernon 7Cs. They are all different. You can't generalize about any of the early Bach mouthpieces. You can't even generalize about the Corp. models. They too were different, especially as they were made for many years. The same goes for the trumpets. If possible try before you buy. If it is a $500 mouthpiece then be sure to try it, as there are dogs mixed in with the gems. |
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Scuba Steve Regular Member
Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Posts: 22 Location: Montgomery, Alabama
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:12 am Post subject: |
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