Value of a Vincent Bach trumpet

Vicko620 · New Member Joined: 10 Nov 2019 Posts: 4

Hi guys, for quite some time I've had a Bach Stradivarius trumpet which I no longer need and I am looking to sell. Can someone please give me some information about the value of this horn:

Vincent Bach Stradivarius model 37,serial ML269464

I looked all over the Internet but couldn't find info about this particular model. Any info would be much appreciated.[/img]

multiphonic · Veteran Member Joined: 14 Oct 2019 Posts: 139

A bunch of used examples at retail prices here:

https://www.dillonmusic.com/brass/trumpets/bb-trumpets/?mode=grid&limit=24&sort=popular&max=5000&min=0&sort=popular&brand=391822

(scroll through the multiple pages)

Private sale prices will be less, but these examples might give you a place to start.

adagiotrumpet · Heavyweight Member Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 903

One down, four to go.

P.S. You could have checked the completed listings on Ebay.

homebilly · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:42 pm Post subject:

i got a $50 bill for you but of course
you will have to foot the bill for shipping

i have been away for a while but i am back ready to splurge
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Christian K. Peters · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:25 pm Post subject: Value

Hello,
Welcome to the TH. I hope you are interested in this site for more than just selling a horn..hence the 5 post limit. If you just want to sell, you would be better off using your local craigslist, schools or boards. Not seeing the horn,maybe $1200-1400 if silver plate and no rot/damage. $1000-1200ish if lacquer. It would have to be cleaner than a whistle to get any type of top dollar, as replacement of leadpipe and or tuning slide due to rot is $500+.
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:21 pm Post subject:

You have probably the most vanilla, common professional trumpet in the US (maybe the world) in the most common configuration. If you sell it, you want to use keywords like "Bach Strad," Bach Stradivarius, and model 37 or 18037. They are all the same horn. I didn't look up the serial number, but if you do you can probably date it 1970s, 1980s, etc. It's a good trumpet and should be sellable on your local market.

People get annoyed here if people show up and start 5 one-sentence posts before going to the market. If you want, you can just post four more comments or questions here, share how you got it, when you played it, ask about the mouthpiece or case, etc.

Maybe you'll decide it would be nice to have more trumpet in your life again.

RussellDDixon · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:13 pm Post subject:

Produced between 1985 - 1990

https://www.bachbrass.com/resources/serial-numbers
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Brad361 · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:45 pm Post subject:

Brad361 · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:46 pm Post subject:

Yep, that particular model is extremely difficult to find information on.🙄 Nice try.

Come on man, there are probably 5 of them on your local Craigslist.

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Vicko620 · New Member Joined: 10 Nov 2019 Posts: 4

Thank you for your replies, guys.

Ok so posting in this forum is certainly not the first thing I did to try to find info about the trumpet, I searched the net, tried local forums and websites, looked at sites like ebay or reverb but I couldn't really find the exact same trumpet and thus I'm posting here. I'm from Bulgaria so craigslist is not a really a thing here and the local websites aren't really helpful.

As for why I'm selling it, I switched to saxophone a some years ago and I haven't used that trumpet in a pretty long time. I got it from the school band as a gift when I was a student and I've had it since then. No point to let it rust in the case considering I've already forgot for the most part.

About its condition, it plays perfectly, it has a great sound but it is rusty as well. I guess this affects the price, not sure how much though. You can find some pics of the horn below:

https://ibb.co/gTtHfJJ
https://ibb.co/FXbW9pt
https://ibb.co/4T6RXwb
https://ibb.co/FmyhLT2
https://ibb.co/j3sp7rH

LittleRusty · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:50 am Post subject:

Check out the Bach Loyalist website. Everything you want to know about Bach trumpets.

As to what it is worth, after looking at your pictures I advise taking homebilly up in his $50 offer. Your horn is pretty beat up.

Gabrieli · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:28 am Post subject:

To the OP

I feel that our american colleagues are not being very nice or helpful to you.
Yes, there are a couple of dents and it is not completely clear to me fom the photos, whether the bell is creased or not.
You should have these things fixed by a competent repairer before selling.
Even in Germany it would cost only ca. 50 Euros to fix I think.
To say your horn is "pretty beat up" is simply not true.
However the laquer is obviously very bad and after having the dents taken out I would strip the laquer myself and sell it as in raw brass, which is popular among some players these days. whether you polish the brass before selling is up to you.
Within Europe selling on Vioworld.de might be a good idea. No fees or customs for anybody involved. If the valves are ok - reasonable compression - I would try ca.1000 Euros. I hope this is more helpful to you in Bulgaria.

Vicko620 · New Member Joined: 10 Nov 2019 Posts: 4

Thank you, Gabrieli, this is quite helpful indeed. I live in an area where it's not gonna be that easy to find a competent repairer so I think it would be better to try to sell it as it is. The valves are in perfect condition so except for the external remarks such as the laquer and the dent the horn is in perfect technical condition. I appreciate the help.

Brad361 · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:49 am Post subject:

HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:06 am Post subject:

I didn't think he was trying to sell it here--I think he was genuinely trying to figure out what it is (although from a first post it can be hard to tell). I think even Bach Strads in horrible condition can go for $500, $700. This one it's still hard to say--is that just lacquer wear or is there rot, how are the valves, is everything stuck, etc.? It may be you could de-dent it and clean it up and it would go for $1000 or $1200, but probably only someone who sees it in person can really tell.

JayKosta · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:43 am Post subject:

From the photos, it appears that the silver plating is largely missing. It is not 'rust' , the top layer of very thin silver is gone, and the underlying brass metal is showing. That is a serious 'cosmetic flaw' that lowers the value. A bigger concern is whether the strength / integrity of the overall brass construction has been affected. One way to inspect is to thoroughly clean the inside of the leadpipe (with the tuning slide removed), and do visual inspection for metal flaking or rough spots.

A 'general practice' for photos of horn being sold is to remove ALL of the valve slides and pistons to show the entire disassembled horn in 1 photo - that is done to demonstrate that nothing is stuck and to show the condition of those parts. If the valve slides are stuck, attempts to remove them might cause damage if not done carefully.

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Brad361 · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:26 am Post subject:

LittleRusty · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:44 am Post subject:

Vicko620 · New Member Joined: 10 Nov 2019 Posts: 4

I can assure you guys, I ain't here to sell. I'm just not much into trumpets, my search didn't really turn out to be very informative so I thought I should collect some opinions from people who are more familiar. It appears that some people would appreciate the horn more than others so I guess the price really depends on the merchant.

As for the condition, as it's probably not clearly visible from the pics, I can confirm there is no rust, just the lacquer is off. Also, all pistons and slides come out smoothly as even though the instrument was not used for a long time I kept it greased up. Here's a show video of me trying to play just so you can see the movement of the pistons and hear the sound:

https://youtu.be/RyCijh85AYw

Liberty Lips · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 979