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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:49 am Post subject: |
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My lifelong friend, Mike has sent me some pics of a Martin Committee that he has owned for some time. He and Al Hirt were acquaintances over a period of decades in New Orleans and a lot of years ago he handed Al Hirt this horn to get some comments. According to his commentary, Al Hirt played it for a little while and said "this is a really great old horn, I like it very much!", to which he replied, "it's one of your old horns".
It is possible that this is the same Committee in the video, but Al Hirt owned many, many horns over his lifetime.
Either way, I believe that this horn is a piece of trumpet history!
Regards,
Mike
My friend Mike sent this picture to me this morning:
This was taken shortly before Al Hirt's passing away. Mike worked across the street from Al Hirt's Club on Bourbon Street for more than 15 years, often visiting each other between sets. _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
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Ronnman Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2019 Posts: 409 Location: SE Louisiana
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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cbtj51 - Thanks for sharing the story and the pics.
Ron |
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Ronnman Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2019 Posts: 409 Location: SE Louisiana
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Al Hirt and Jet-Tone |
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Tony Scodwell wrote: | Bill Ratzenberger was only the partner of the originator of the Jet-Tone mouthpiece, Ray Amado. Ray started making Jet-Tone mouthpieces around 1966 and over the years had most of the leading players using them. Al Hirt was one of the early converts and Ray made his model at that time along with custom models for Doc Severinsen, Bill Chase, Snooky Young, Urbie Green, Charlie Shavers, Buddy Morrow and many more. Ray separated from Ratzenberger around 1969 due to some "financial" discrepancies and Ratzenberger continued making Jet-Tone mouthpieces best he could, which was not nearly the quality that Ray Amado had developed. The name was sold over the years to many people and quality continued to deteriorate. |
Tony see the video link below dated 1962. It appears that Al is using a Jet tone mouthpiece on his Martin Committee. Maybe a custom piece before the commercial release? https://youtu.be/GYxl2FT-6LM |
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Leeway Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2019 Posts: 141
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Ronnman wrote: | Tony, you are correct. After viewing the video on a full size computer screen, I see where it appears similiar to a Martin mouthpiece. Also, thanks for the info on Bill Ratzenberger and Ray Amato. The mid 60s is what I remembered as the begins of the Jet-tone mouthpieces.
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It does look very much like what I've seen referred to a "Schilke-Martin" mp.
Definitely not a Jet Tone.
What struck me is his odd sound, not what I would call indicative of the characteristically Martin Committee timbre.
Listen to Blue Mitchell playing the same horn in the same era.
Cant say it's my cup of tea musically. A lot of stress put on the "look what I can do" element with not much happening melodically and nothing at all innovative, when one considers what was happening in the greater Jazz World at that time. Nonetheless an interesting curiosity of the era. |
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Joe B. New Member
Joined: 27 Aug 2017 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:32 am Post subject: |
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The horn looks tiny in Al Hirt's hands. My brother and I had an old (at the time) engraved, tri-tone I think, worn out Martin trumpet, in the 60's that dad picked up from a fellow musician friend. Wish I still had it. Still have my "java" album i bought new. "Turn off that bubble machine"! |
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