Yamaha silver faux

johnfin · Regular Member Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Posts: 48

What is the finish used on silver faux student horns.

LittleRusty · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:55 pm Post subject:

I believe it is harvested from a distant relative of the naugas that are used in making Naugahyde. However the Faux are native to Japan and thus have diverged evolutionarily from the Naugas.

Specifically Faux create a pearl like substance that looks like silver rather than opalescent like a pearl.

Seriously, can you supply a picture or model number that shows what you are referring to?

johnfin · Regular Member Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Posts: 48

Its a yamaha 1320, finish is something other then silver plated.

Gonzalez · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:26 am Post subject:

Nickel plated
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:13 pm Post subject:

I've seen those for sale here on the used market. Nice to know that they are nickel and not silver.

johnfin · Regular Member Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Posts: 48

I thought 1. Nickel was satin like the 5 cent piece and 2. Would never corrode, mine is.

Mike Prestage · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:54 am Post subject:

Nickel plating on brass instruments is usually bright, not satin. It also generally has a lacquer coat on top to keep it shiny.

Yamaha offered the 1320 in lacquered brass and silver plate. (I think the silver ones would have been marked 1320S but not sure.) AFIAK Yamaha have never made any nickel plated horns. If you're certain the finish on yours isn't silver, I'm guessing it's an aftermarket finish - most likely nickel.

I'd be intrigued to know if there are factory nickel plated Yamahas out there though. Gonzalez, do you have any more information?

Mike

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HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:44 am Post subject:

Mike Prestage · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:13 am Post subject:

Nickel silver, widely used as the base material for parts of trumpets, is an alloy made up largely of copper. It's a very different thing to nickel plating, which is pure nickel (or at least very close to it).

Mike

LittleRusty · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:07 am Post subject:

According to the information at the trumpet history webpage the 1310 is nickel plated. But the site is not an official site so take it for what it’s worth.

The page also lists a 1320s that has a silver finish.

Mike Prestage · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:32 am Post subject:

Interesting - I'd never heard of the 1310 but just did an image search and they definitely look nickel plated to me.

Mike

delano · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:42 am Post subject:

According to the Yamaha loyalist the YTR 1320, 1320E and 1320ES were all nickel plated. Also the 1310 but that is not the OP's horn.

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lipshurt · Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:27 pm Post subject:

Nickel plating is a very hard thick coating of pure nickel. By the way nickel plated bells sound great. Connstellation as an example. If nickel plating is exposed to the elements it turns a dull grey that can be polished back to bright with an aggressive metal cleaner like MASS or Rolite. Brasso or silver polish would be a tough go. The plating is really hard to scratch. You can take a jack knife and scrape it down the side of a bell and it won’t touch the nickel.
The lacquer over the nickel would degrade starting with lots of little spots. The nickel under those spots would turn grey. It’s not corrosion. Just tarnish/patina. It would polish perfectly if there were no lacquer over it.
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