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jicetp
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:15 am    Post subject: Name of ' technique ' Reply with quote

Hi

I was wondering if this way of doing things has a name ?

I am experimenting with finding an embouchure that allows me to burst some air and have a ' bang ' as a result.
When well done, the sound is loud and rich and curiously, I can manage to play pretty softly with it.

If was wondering if anyone did that too ?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
i've seen on youtube an interview of a well nome classical player (don't remember the name nor the title of the program), where he said that sometimes depending of the needs of the music, he created a kind of pressure (slightly like a gentle valsalva maoeuvre) to get a more percussive fast clean response, even if played softly.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that if I can ' blast ' any note that way, I can play FFFF/pppp with this setting, BUT range is limited '( one octave above/below the reference note ).

Today, I cant go any higher than E/F top of the staff with this 'technique ' because I can feel the tongue is out of the way and I cant blow that much air for it to happen higher ( yet )

For now, I consider this experiment with finding the best combination/placement of whatever produce the sound for me.

I do that with trumpet resting on thumbs so that I cant press and allow the trumpet/mouthpiece to shift where it wants to.
I already observed that when regular playing, I tend to raise the trumpet too much, resulting in less than ' what I can do ' playing.

Might take some time to adapt.....
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jicetp wrote:
I find that if I can ' blast ' any note that way, I can play FFFF/pppp with this setting, BUT range is limited '( one octave above/below the reference note ).

Today, I cant go any higher than E/F top of the staff with this 'technique ' because I can feel the tongue is out of the way and I cant blow that much air for it to happen higher ( yet )

For now, I consider this experiment with finding the best combination/placement of whatever produce the sound for me.

I do that with trumpet resting on thumbs so that I cant press and allow the trumpet/mouthpiece to shift where it wants to.
I already observed that when regular playing, I tend to raise the trumpet too much, resulting in less than ' what I can do ' playing.

Might take some time to adapt.....



Maybe you should look into the BE method! Jeff Smiley describes a certain way of attacking notes, "snapping". By no means a way of playing during ordinary circumstances, but a way of enhancing attack/focussing.
Seems to be something close to your efforts!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out TCE - Rich Colquhoun runs http://tonguecontrolled.info/

This technique (imo) directly influenced BE. There is a real focus on the quality of attack. I think it sounds worthwhile based on what you are experimenting with.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what the OP is referring to in his description. It is a bit vague.

Snapping notes in BE is far different from anything in TCE. I did not learn this technique from Callet. I discovered it myself in the early 1970's.

As for TCE influencing BE, BE was written in 2000. Trumpet Secrets was written in 2002.

Callet influenced both.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tried to find the vid i was talking about, it's not that one, but this is interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oP08Fh5L9E
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snaps it is !

As a way of starting a not eto find the ' sweet spot '
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