Thomann TR-6000GL Legend Trumpet

[jjayf]

Does anyone have an opinion , experience , any information, or inside scoop on this horn?


I wrote to Thomas and they say it is modeled after the "Big fat sounding Jazz trumpets of the 50's and 60's"
I don't really know what that means since most vintage horns I have played are not as "big" sounding as todays

interestingly enough they didn't recommend it and that is was "not that easy to play"

ML bore .4586
5 inch bell
reverse tuning slide

I know Thomas is a reputable dealer and this is a horn that they "stenciled" from Asia but I can't seem to find any information on it.

https://www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_tr_6000gl_legend_trumpet.htm

[grune]

I have toured the factory where Thomann sources, and sampled the horns. The factory and horns are good. I cannot say if the model you chose is exactly the same as the one I trialled, but I suspect it is. Build quality is high, smooth slides, and valves are quick, easy, smooth. Very good tone using a Bach 3C: I would say tending to bright. Within the staff, the horn plays well and easily. Good overall intonation, with the usual slides needed for high A and low D. I could develop good power without too much strain. For the horn trialled, the upper register had resistance which made high C somewhat more difficult to play than on some other 'pro' horns. Overall high value for the price, and a very good horn for the advancing student.

If the shop said it was difficult to play, maybe they surmised difficult for you? In which case, what is your level?
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Bach Stradivarius, 180S37 (Silver Model 37 Bb), ML75618, purchased new in 1972.

[JayKosta]

The bit about it 'not being easy to play' might be due to the largish bell size and reversed tuning slide - the horn might be very 'free blowing', and many people find that some resistance makes playing easier. It might also be that those items also make the 'slotting' of the horn less precise, which places more responsibility and skill needs on the player to achieve good intonation.

Those are the only 'specs' for the horn that I saw as relevant to it not being 'easy to play'

Jay
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Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'.

[JonathanM]

Can't speak to their trumpets, but I just picked up Thomann's FH600 flugel, and I am extremely impressed. Valves to die for, intonation is as good as most flugels (better than the Getzen, Benge or CarolBrass I had), altogether a nice flugel and an absolute steal for value. Thomann also has a great reputation for satisfying their customers via return, warranty, etc.

If you get one, please give feedback!
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Jonathan Milam
Trumpets: 18043B, 18043*, 18043 Sterling Silver +, 18037 SterlingSilver+, Benge 4x, Olds: '34 Symphony, '47 Super, '52 Recording
Flugle: Strad 182
Puje: American Belle
Cornet: Olds Recording & Super

[jjayf]

Wow!!
Everyone, thank you for all the great feedback! I was doubtful I would get feedback from anyone that had played the instrument

[jjayf]

[Brassnose]

I have ordered a number and of things from Thomann over the years and their service has always been great - not sure about their retur policy in the US but here they offer a 30 days money back guarantee. I do know of people ordering five horns, keeping the best one and sending the rest back. Would that be possible for you? Much easier to play test the horn than reading specs ...
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2019 Martin Schmidt eXcellence
1992 Bach 43GH/43
1989 Kühnl & Hoyer Model 15 flugel
1980/2023 Custom Blessing Scholastic C 😎
1977 Conn 6B
1951 Buescher 400 Lightweight
AR Resonance, Frate, Klier

[jjayf]

[gtownlead]

I asked the same question a while ago and got the below reply:

"Our 6000 Series is like the old King/Conn trumpets from the 1950th/1960th.
The trumpet is not lightweight and has a very dark and dirty sound. In the lacquer finish, even darker than in silver plated.
So if you know what I mean with old King trumpets, you can imagine, how the sound is like!"

[jjayf]

[gtownlead]

Just for completion sake, I ended up ordering a Thomann TR-4000L.

[JetJaguar]

I got the TR-800 for my daughter. Even though it's a large bore with a round tuning slide, she sounds great on it. She uses an old Holton Collegiate mouthpiece. She liked the ornamentation on it. The hexagonal caps, buttons, and spit valves were also appealing to her. All those hexagons and the reverse tuning slide resemble Schilke. I think it plays just fine.
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1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece

I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com

[pinstriper]

[JetJaguar]

Early morning typo. At first I wrote "large bell", then corrected it to "bore bell". I've now corrected it to "large bore".

But bore bell does sound like something we would talk about on here.
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1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece

I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com

[jjayf]

once again , thanks for all the feedback, seems like a lot of people are having good experience with what Thomann is making.
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Jason
50's Indiana
50's Imperial
60's Imperial
Olds Amb., studio, special (love that one)
50's Conn Director 18b coprion bell
40's King Liberty
Holten 22b Cornet

[jjayf]