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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:37 pm Post subject: Rookie mistake!š¤¬ |
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Had to play a simple fanfare at a Fat Tuesday gig, to signal the entrance of the āking and queenā, TOTALLY fracked the first note!!!
Sure, lots of the crowd probably didnāt notice, but REALLY embarrassing and annoying!!!!š¤¬š¤¬
It happens, I guess....š
Anyone else care to share goofy-mistake stories?
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 8964 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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It happens. You're in good company.
I was playing Taps at an Eisenhower memorial service when he died, and like an idiot, instead of just playing it with a few valves down, lower range, I played it open and blew the top G. Clam city.
It was an emotional moment and for the deceased, you don't get a second chance. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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pinstriper Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Does blowing so hard on a solo that you push the harmon mute out of the bell count ? _________________ ~'77 DEG Dynasty II Soprano Bugle in G
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:47 am Post subject: |
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pinstriper wrote: | Does blowing so hard on a solo that you push the harmon mute out of the bell count ? |
I guess that might count, but at least thatās an equipment problem, as opposed to an I-sounded-like-a-sixth-grader-on-the-first-note problem!š¬š¬
But at least the rest of the gig went well!
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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mafields627 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Nov 2001 Posts: 3774 Location: AL
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:21 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | It happens. You're in good company.
I was playing Taps at an Eisenhower memorial service when he died, and like an idiot, instead of just playing it with a few valves down, lower range, I played it open and blew the top G. Clam city.
It was an emotional moment and for the deceased, you don't get a second chance. |
Another Taps moment here. This year's Veteran's Day program....I conduct the National Anthem, the Armed Forces medley, sit through a couple of speakers, and then it's time for Taps. My first trumpet player bailed on me, so I'm playing it. About 45 minutes after I last had a chance to play I pick up the horn, take a breath, and something like an air ball going through puberty came out. My whole band turned around and I started over. Nailed it after that...lol. _________________ --Matt--
No representation is made that the quality of this post is greater than the quality of that of any other poster. Oh, and get a teacher! |
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vwag Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Jul 2016 Posts: 180 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Good to see some air balls out here by experts, and as an amateur it sucks when I donāt nail it. Had a brass ensemble Sunday, and despite nailing a tricky descant over and over at home, I just didnāt nail it Sunday.
It seems most of the challenges I see, and read about here, are nailing entrances. My lesson learned- work on EVERY entrance as many times as possible, and know exactly the count the director will use for the entrance. |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 am Post subject: |
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vwag wrote: | .....
It seems most of the challenges I see, and read about here, are nailing entrances. My lesson learned- work on EVERY entrance as many times as possible, and know exactly the count the director will use for the entrance. |
Good point, in retrospect thatās what happened to me last night. They were not specific about the little āfanfareā they wanted, so I just improvised. In doing so, I simply did not concentrate on the first pitch, thus, āthhwwattā. Made a quick recovery, but you ācanāt un-ring a bell.ā
Which is why I called this a rookie mistake, I should have paid more attention to the first note. The saving grace was that I played better than average for the rest of the gig. This was our sixth Mardis Gras gig this month, frankly, Iām glad those are finished.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Stars & Stripes Forever and the end of an otherwise well played 2+ hour AF Band concert.. attacked the high "C" stinger at the end and a big fat Bb sounded...
On another occasion, playing "Officer's Call" at an inside event - part way through the call a women guest walked infront of me, slinging her shawl over her shoulder, it also grabbed the spit valve on my trumpet and forcibly pulled it from my face - creating a loud yelp / kiss off. Classy. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Yep. Even after years of playing taps, it is always an adventure. Nice to know I am in excellent company. I keep thinking that really good audiation is the key, but there are also circumstances. No time is like another time. It is quiet and everyone is listening. Yet I still play it and consider it an honor to do so. I guess it is a bit like golf, when you hit one good shot, it keeps you coming back even if you hit some bad ones.
Brad's signature says it all. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
C: Schilke CXL, Kanstul 1510-2
Picc: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
Bb Pocket: Manchester Brass
Flugel: Taylor Standard
Bass Trumpet: BAC Custom
Natural Tr: Custom Haas replica by Nikolai MƤnttƤri Morales |
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blbaumgarn Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:07 pm Post subject: Rookie Mistake |
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Gee folks, if you play, and you play for very long it happens. Like Zaferis I did a C that was a B flat in music camp my junior year. Wilbur Crist from Capital University in Columbus was directing the band I was in. I fracked the note, he waved the band to a stop and yelled "NO" can't you hear that? then he said just play it for me and bang I did. And he said "now you can hear it." Crist was a trumpet player and at least knew about fracking up something. A fellow from my school played principle for him at Capital for 3 years and he said when school started again Mr. Crist said, "you know I don't think that young man will ever want to go to college here as I scared him to death." That happened like 54 years ago and i am still here. I guess we grow and get over it. The point is folks you were there to play for something or someone else and that counts up more. _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush |
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Lionel Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Even the best hit clams. There's a couple of Buddy Rich albums from the mid 1970s that I'd bet money that Lin Biviano would like to have taken back and overdubbed. The tune "Jesus Christ Superstar" in particular has a nasty out-chorus. Splattered "trippa" notes, clams and notes that just wouldn't slot on the proper pitch.
Those are the risks of playing high notes in a live setting. However I still bought those albums back in the day anyway. Even while knowing well in advance that Lin's clams were on it. Regardless of these errors many of us still are huge fans of Lin. He had "the sound". The kind of tone we pay money to go hear. I'm supposin that Buddy Rich, a total perfectionist decided to keep these takes on the album regardless. He was competing for record sales with Maynard, Kenton and even Duke Ellington. Bands that people who love high notes followed. Biviano being the closest thing that he had to Cat Anderson.
As for my personal failures? I once showboated the last phrase of the National Anthem. Something I'd done many times before. My high G which hardly ever failed me in the past? Wouldn't slot! So I just got a piece of it and finished as best as I could. I was so glad that only my rendition of "Taps" ended up on local Channel 8. This was due to some crazy person on stage who went on a psychotic rant about politics and God. To great boos in the audience. Oh my God! The local police and fire chiefs had to physically remove the poor guy from the stage. So in a way I was lucky. As nobody remembered my less than perfect performance.
Living with ourselves is important. Today I feel much more comfortable inside my own skin than I used to as a young man. _________________ "Check me if I'm wrong Sandy but if I kill all the golfers they're gonna lock me up & throw away the key"!
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Riojazz Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Here's my story: everything I've played in public has been precise and perfect.
Now, if you believe that, ... _________________ Matt Finley https://mattfinley.bandcamp.com/releases
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Riojazz wrote: | Here's my story: everything I've played in public has been precise and perfect. |
Then you are definitely a true trumpet player. You're simply better than every one else. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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