First flugelhorn

RichieBill · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:09 pm Post subject: First flugelhorn

Hello Everyone!

I am amateur home trumpet player, just for my pleasure (music school 25 years ago). I already have trumpet Getzen Bravura 98B and cornet Olds Ambassador. These horns are good enough for me.

I want to buy my first flugelhorn on similar level of instrument, like my above horns. I am looking for a flugelhorn with typical for flugel - smooth, mellow sound (no like trumpet/trombone). I suppose that smaller bore will be required but I am not sure. I am planning spent no more than £400 and even less if is possible.

I think about second hand one, well known manufacturer, like for example: Olds, Besson or Bach 501D or a new chinese flug, like: Thomann FH-600G, Roy Benson FH-320G, Elkhart 100FHR or maybe any different one.

What would you recommend for me?

TrumpetMD · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:30 pm Post subject:

For what you are looking for, I think those are all reasonable choices. In your price range, I would also consider a used Getzen 895 Eterna or Capri Flugelhorn. Also a new Allora Flugelhorn (from wwbw.com) might be another reasonable option (although I'm not sure about shipping to the UK).

Mike
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Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns.

RichieBill · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:52 pm Post subject:

Turkle · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:53 pm Post subject:

I played an old Yamaha 231 for many years. It had a lovely tone although it could be quite a bear to play sometimes. I paid like $500 for it.

If you can bump your price up a little bit, something like the Austin Custom Brass Doubler's flugel would likely be MUCH MUCH better than whatever dodgy Chinese horn you score on Ebay or whatever.

Good luck!
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Yamaha 8310Z flugel
Curry 3.

pinstriper · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:37 pm Post subject:

Put the Dillon flugels in the mix. Under $500, plus of course whatever it takes to get it into the UK.
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'13 Chinese POS "Hawk" branded Flugel
'59 Olds Ambassador Cornet
'51 Olds Super
'69 Olds Studio
'40 Olds Special Cornet, Military Issued

mwlangford · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:25 pm Post subject:

Has anyone here had experience with the Conn Vintage? I am starting my search as well. Looking forward to trying several.

RichieBill · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:36 pm Post subject:

RichieBill · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:19 am Post subject:

I already bought second hand B&H Sovereign for £300. Next week should arrive.
Thank you for all your responses.
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Denis Wick S, 4. Flip Oakes XFL1

RichieBill · Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:34 pm Post subject:

Today I got Besson Sovereign.
I didn't have too much time today but quickly tried and I'm very happy. Looks very nice, it's in really excellent condition, sounds quite smooth on my Wick 4F. Tuning is very good and surprisingly easy blow, even in high registers.
Thank you guys for your posts.
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cornet - Olds Ambassador,
Denis Wick S, 4. Flip Oakes XFL1

TrumpetMD · Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:37 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the update. Congratulations on the new horn!

Mike
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Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns.

khedger · Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:44 pm Post subject:

oldblow · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:15 am Post subject:

Keep in mind that Couesnon made the Elkhart flugelhorn, the older version, not the Bach Asian one made for the European market lately. They are small bore, marked with the usual craftsmen's initials, and they play well. I have two of them, and old silver one with the French taper pipe, and a newer brass one with the large Morse taper pipe. I paid $200 for the silver one off TH Marketplace, and $350 for the brass one, in unplayed condition, off the bay.
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