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Weboh New Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:40 pm Post subject: What case can I get for a Con 80A? |
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I recently got a Conn 80A that I'm really happy with. The only problem is it didn't come with the original case. Currently, it has a King cornet case. It doesn't fit snug in it though, because to make it fit I had to take out the support piece in the center; the vertical tuning slide on the cornet is where the support normally would be.
Is this a normal layout for a cornet case? Has anyone else had problems finding a case that would provide maximum protection for a Con 80A cornet? Do you know what I should look for when buying a case online? Or does anyone have an extra Conn case to sell me? Thanks. |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'd get something like a ProTec that is a slot that the cornet fits into. I do have a ProTec cornet case, but I don't have an 80A to try it with. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
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khedger Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: What case can I get for a Con 80A? |
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Weboh wrote: | I recently got a Conn 80A that I'm really happy with. The only problem is it didn't come with the original case. Currently, it has a King cornet case. It doesn't fit snug in it though, because to make it fit I had to take out the support piece in the center; the vertical tuning slide on the cornet is where the support normally would be.
Is this a normal layout for a cornet case? Has anyone else had problems finding a case that would provide maximum protection for a Con 80A cornet? Do you know what I should look for when buying a case online? Or does anyone have an extra Conn case to sell me? Thanks. |
I bought an 80A from Trent Austin (Austin Custom Brass) several months ago and they recommended a Reunion Blues Single Voyager. It's a hardshell covered in cordura fairly small and the conn fits in it well. I think it was around $70.....
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Crazy Finn wrote: | I'd get something like a ProTec that is a slot that the cornet fits into. I do have a ProTec cornet case, but I don't have an 80A to try it with. |
+1 actually this case works great with all cornets.
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 9005 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:45 am Post subject: Re: What case can I get for a Con 80A? |
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khedger wrote: |
I bought an 80A from Trent Austin (Austin Custom Brass) several months ago and they recommended a Reunion Blues Single Voyager. It's a hardshell covered in cordura fairly small and the conn fits in it well. I think it was around $70.....keith |
@Keith - I can't find a cornet case. Are you referring to the trumpet case? Thank you.
2X the cost, BTW. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Uberopa Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a Gard cordura cornet case for my 80A. It turned out to be just too short by a couple of inches. |
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khedger Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 754 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: What case can I get for a Con 80A? |
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kehaulani wrote: | khedger wrote: |
I bought an 80A from Trent Austin (Austin Custom Brass) several months ago and they recommended a Reunion Blues Single Voyager. It's a hardshell covered in cordura fairly small and the conn fits in it well. I think it was around $70.....keith |
@Keith - I can't find a cornet case. Are you referring to the trumpet case? Thank you.
2X the cost, BTW. |
Not sure. I had picked one out on the website and before shipping one of the guys sent me an email and said the case I picked was a bit too snug and recommened the Reunion Blues. He didn't say whether it was a trumpet or cornet case. When I lay the 80A in it there's about 2-3 inches to spare lengthwise.
I checked my invoice email and it says 'Reunion Blues Single Voyager' and I looked on Trent's site. They list something called the 'Continental Single Voyager' for $139.00, but it looks like the same case I've got. Could have been a sale on or overstock....don't know. Good case though.
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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laundryman Regular Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2016 Posts: 14 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I use a Protec case. I find that, even with the internal pads, it is a bit too long.A rolled up washcloth behind the horn between it and the last rear pad keeps the bell on the other end where the protection is. I also warp the cornet with cloth to protect the opera glass tuner. That's because the horn had damage near that point and had to be repaired after a shipping accident. I do not use the two pockets in the larger side pouch for mouthpieces. I am concerned that harder denser material in those side pocket might damage the horn if there was impact at that point. |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:53 am Post subject: |
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The 80A won’t fit in the Protec cornet case - it’s too long. I bought an 80A that had no case, and bought a used Conn Director trumpet case from that era for it. I unscrewed the valve cluster saddle in the case and moved it to line up with the valves on the 80A. Worked like a charm.
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:54 am Post subject: |
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I own a older version of this.
https://www.protecstyle.com/TRUMPET-SLIMLINE-CLASSIC-PRO-PAC
And I'm pretty sure my 80A fits. If I think of it I'll verify tonight. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
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Morifori Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Good topic, and one I've been thinking of lately! If you find something please share.
I got the Slimline Protec trumpet case linked above for my kid's 80A. It sort of works but isn't great. The cornet seems too tall. The bell sits a little high unless you prop up the receiver end...It's probably fine for an adult but I don't feel it is suitably kidproof.
(Kid switched to this instrument after school closed down--if it's to go to school when it reopens, we need a better fit.) |
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Jon Arnold Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:16 am Post subject: |
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I recently bought a 1926 80A and I can either put it in my Messina Covers doubler bag or it fits in my protec single case. I have owned several 80A's in the past and I tried to put in a Gard cornet bag, but the 80A is longer and would only fit if I took the bell protector out. Hope that helps. |
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Weboh New Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. That Protec one doesn't look promising; I'm looking for a perfect fit in a hard case for as much protection as possible. I guess I can't buy one online unless it's the original case--otherwise I can't guarantee a perfect fit unless I try it.
I guess I'll just have to watch Craigslist, flea markets, and this forum for cases. |
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khedger Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Weboh wrote: | Thanks for the replies. That Protec one doesn't look promising; I'm looking for a perfect fit in a hard case for as much protection as possible. I guess I can't buy one online unless it's the original case--otherwise I can't guarantee a perfect fit unless I try it.
I guess I'll just have to watch Craigslist, flea markets, and this forum for cases. |
You should just contact one of the case companies and ask them to make you a hardshell case for the 80A. If they get measurements of the horn and your requirements, they should able to build whatever you need. It'll probably be costly, but the chances of finding an original case are probably pretty slim....
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nieuwguyski Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Weboh wrote: | Thanks for the replies. That Protec one doesn't look promising; I'm looking for a perfect fit in a hard case for as much protection as possible. I guess I can't buy one online unless it's the original case--otherwise I can't guarantee a perfect fit unless I try it.
I guess I'll just have to watch Craigslist, flea markets, and this forum for cases. |
I have the original basic/slim case for my 1923 Conn 80A and the original "Artist" case for my 1921 Conn 10A (which has the same fundamental design as the 80A "Artist" case).
I would have to say that the standards of "perfect fit" and "maximum protection" have changed. When I carry either or both horns to a gig, I use a hard double case that was originally sold with a Kanstul-built "Marvin Stamm" model trumpet, with two vertical slots for horns, covered in maroon fabric. The fit isn't "perfect," but the protection is so much better than the original cases there's no comparison.
If I wanted a hard case offering a perfect fit and ridiculous protection for my 80A I'd buy a Pelican 1506 Air Case (with foam), and use the "pick and pluck" foam to make a perfect slot for the horn. _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski |
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Morifori Regular Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Perfect fit and maximum protection indeed! I agree: standards really have changed.
I have the original case for mine (50's model "Stratoliner") and while it's gorgeous and still fairly usable, even in mint condition it would offer lousy protection from drops and other forms of bad luck. It really was a different philosophy of protection.
(Maybe I'm overprotective.) |
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mdarnton Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I always tell kids that are buying a good violin that the case doesn't protect--you do. It's like having a baby: just because you have it all wrapped in blankets, that doesn't mean you can drop it.
Supposedly when Martin guitars switched from wood cases to modern well-fit plastic ones the mortality rate went up: no one had trusted the wood cases to protect, so they took responsibility. When they got a modern, fancy case, people let the case take a responsibility it couldn't shoulder, and the result was more damage with a theoretically better case. |
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