Found a (very) recent performance of Nakariakov playing - with a higher res video than I've generally seen previously of his playing. Spoiler: he's still really, really good.[/youtube] _________________ More than one trumpet
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The trumpet is an instrument that lends itself to an incredibly wide range of musical style and expression. Many of us, I feel, want to hang on a small percentage of what the instrument is capable of as the benchmark, IOW, the box that must be checked for a great player to truly be an "all arounder"....
Personal case in point: I've got a friend who is a REALLY good, strong player. this guy is one of those folks who worships at the alter of Maynard. Nothing wrong with that, we dig what we dig, but here's where he and I parted ways....
In one of our endless discussions about Maynard's (and Bill Chase, and Lin's) awesome playing (and they were/ARE for sure!) he brought up the occasion of Maynard performing "The Emperor" with the NY Phil, and apparently whomever the conductor was had quipped to Maynard, "If you ever lose your lip, you can come and play 1st trumpet with us!" I smiled and said that that was high praise but NO ONE plays principal trumpet with the NY Phil, or ANY major orchestra, with a blown lip. I then proceeded to talk for a bit about Phil Smith, who was still principal at the time. He had never heard of Phil, and I suggested he go on YouTube and check out some of Phil's work. His comment was, "Well, I'll check it out, but I don't think I'll be too impressed"....the next thing I knew the room was full of the scent of burning wiring coming from inside my cranial cavity...a long way to go, but it really struck me with how, as I said, for every mode of expression the trumpet is capable of, it's SO easy to get hung up on one aspect of it's palette. I'd be shocked to hear Sergei scream a dubba C, but I've heard him nail enough high F's with a gorgeous sound to make me think that if he cared about that aspect he might have a pretty good shot at achieving it......
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:14 pm Post subject:
Sergei's range is just fine. He's not in a niche. He is a complete artist with good control of his instrument. He doesn't need to record a jazz album or record M Haydn to prove anything to anybody.
This thread is called "how does he do it?" Not "speculate on what he can't do".
Sergei's range is just fine. He's not in a niche. He is a complete artist with good control of his instrument. He doesn't need to record a jazz album or record M Haydn to prove anything to anybody.
This thread is called "how does he do it?" Not "speculate on what he can't do".
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:58 pm Post subject:
Sure, he's a pretty good trumpet player, but can he pick his nose like I can? I doubt it, I am definitely a better nose-picker. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley
The pettiness on this forum sometimes amazes me. We read comments like "using a setup oriented towards agility". Does this come from first hand knowledge or idle speculation? "He can play Hayden, but can he play lead in a big band," (I paraphrase). Why the qualifiers?
You're overlaying your own interpretation on what was an honest, objective answer to the original question, trying to infer value judgements that aren't any part of my comments.
At least one responder has cited an interaction with Sergei that supports what I concluded as accurate. If you're bound and determined to be huffy and indignant knock yourself out.
Alison Balsom isn't a high-noter either, I have several of her albums. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: How Does He Do It?
jhatpro wrote:
I'm always transfixed when I hear Sergei Nakaraiakov. How does he play so effortlessly?
He practiced and continues to practice the correct material correctly, a lot.
Observations of what his neck is doing or what his lips look like when he is playing are pointless.
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:52 pm Post subject:
For those that heaven't already seen it, here's an hour-long feature that tells a good bit about him. Sadly I don't recall there being any mention of tongue arch or nose picking.
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You're overlaying your own interpretation on what was an honest, objective answer to the original question, trying to infer value judgements that aren't any part of my comments.
. If you're bound and determined to be huffy and indignant knock yourself out.
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I was merely offering my opinion regarding one player evaluating another's abilities.
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You're overlaying your own interpretation on what was an honest, objective answer to the original question, trying to infer value judgements that aren't any part of my comments.
. If you're bound and determined to be huffy and indignant knock yourself out.
I stand by my position that qualifying a player's abilities in any form is petty. I fail to see how this is "huffy and indignant".
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:46 pm Post subject:
I agree 100% with jaw04 (and Hermokiwi).
He does what he does as well as anybody on the planet!
Just enjoy it for what what it is.
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I stand by my position that qualifying a player's abilities in any form is petty. I fail to see how this is "huffy and indignant".
You stand by your reading something that isn't there into what I said - understood. _________________ Getzen Eterna Severinsen
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:26 am Post subject:
hello
we must work on response quality and velocity / aperture control
lips alignment adjustments / air pivots / tongue / jaw
and of course have the right mpc parameters for ourselves
best
I've been thinking more about this topic and how cleanly Sergei plays everything. He doesn't crack notes or get less than a pure sound.
Meanwhile, most of the rest of us struggle with hitting notes cleanly, maintaining a pure sound and dealing with the other problems typical to sound production on trumpet.
We tend to focus on making our lips buzz to produce a clean and pure sound and there's no doubt that Sergei focuses on that, too.
I think, however, that Sergei focuses on something else as well: He focuses on preventing from buzzing anything that interferes with a clean and pure sound. He's got his embouchure set so that everything that creates a clean and pure sound is buzzing and everything that interferes with creating a clean and pure sound is not buzzing. He somehow isolates and controls those two elements.
I know that in my case when I get less than a clean and pure sound the problem is not that the parts that are supposed to be buzzing aren't buzzing. The problem is that there is something else buzzing that is interfering with what is supposed to be buzzing.
Sergei must be tightening up what's not supposed to buzz so that it doesn't buzz while keeping what's supposed to buzz free to buzz. It sounds simple conceptually but it's difficult to execute consistently. I only know that when I have a sound production issue if I tighten things up (make the lips more rigid) even a little the problem usually goes away or at least becomes much less of a problem.
People talk about "tensionless" playing and/or that "tension" is bad but you have to have some tension in your embouchure to make things work. I wonder, for many of us, if we're experiencing problems because we're not employing enough tension in our embouchures, that a certain amount of steady and consistent tension needs to be there to keep things that shouldn't be buzzing from buzzing. _________________ HERMOKIWI
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:32 am Post subject:
I play much better if I activate m core, something I learned to do only after receiving physical therapy following back surgery. Also, I play cleaner with better range if I don't take too much air and don't hesitate for a nanosecond using the air I do inhale. _________________ Jim Hatfield
No, that's not what I'm describing. What I'm saying is that the center can be too relaxed. It can be so relaxed that things in the center that interfere with buzzing a clean and pure sound are not being controlled with the result that those things buzz and interfere with making a clean and pure sound. _________________ HERMOKIWI
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Nailed it
