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jaquesmetz
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:20 am    Post subject: Small diameter, deep bowl cup Reply with quote

Hi everybody!

Hope you're all well in this unprecedented times.

I'm looking for a mouthpiece with a smaller inner diameter (.640" or .650") with a deep bowl shaped cup.

Any reccomendations?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play a Roy Steven's mouthpiece. It's dimensions are .654 diameter rim and a .417 depth. This mouthpiece is similar to a Bach 10 1/2C but has a slightly larger diameter and slightly shallower depth and wider more comfortable rim.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bach 6B ? It is not as "V shaped" as the other B cups.

The 8 1/2 C is very bowl shaped. So you could look at the Curry line, maybe get a Curry 8 1/2 B, since his B cup is really a deep C cup.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may sound too obvious, but have you tried a Bach 7C. It's actually pretty deep for a bowl shape. If you want deeper you start getting into more V/funnel shape cups like a Bach 5B. Another approach could be the Curry TC cup, but again more funnel shaped.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curry 8.5 sizes are great with the BC, B or TC cups. I just happen to have those for sale.

https://www.trumpetherald.com/marketplace.php?task=detail&id=121654&s=Curry-8.5-Trumpet-MP
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also like narrow but deep. Along with the Bach 7C and GR65LX or L, the Monette B6DS1 is another great choice if the wallet allows.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Small diameter, deep bowl cup Reply with quote

jaquesmetz wrote:
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I'm looking for a mouthpiece with a smaller inner diameter (.640" or .650") with a deep bowl shaped cup. ...

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Every mouthpiece maker seems to have their own way of measuring the ID.
What specific mouthpiece is it that you want to replace with one of 'smaller ID' and 'deep bowl' (deeper than what?).

Jay
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My impression is that this is what the Bach 10 1/2 C is for, right? Mine has a small diameter and a deep cup (small letters).
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monette.

B6DS1.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theslawdawg wrote:
Monette.

B6DS1.

You're welcome.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Curry has options.
http://www.currympc.com/index.php?id=47
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

delano wrote:
theslawdawg wrote:
Monette.

B6DS1.

You're welcome.


If you are a dentist


Have you tried a B6DS1?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I am not a dentist.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I played a Bach 7A for quite some time in college with small group jazz and brass quintet. It took a while to get used to but I really liked the sound and it sounded fine in recordings too. Dark sound but not "dull", just a clear dark sound. I've moved on to different pieces now but it might be something for you to check out.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the sound you're after, and things like back-pressure, flexibility, etc.

I play a Reeves that I got from them that is a 42/64"/ .656" and has a hybrid shape between a Cup and a V-shape. My eyesight won't let me focus on it, but I believe it's a 42D2. If you're interested, you should check with them, though.

The purpose was to keep it as close to a Purviance 5*K4 that I had been playing but darken the sound. It does that beautifully without dulling the sound.

BTW, I don't consider a .656" small. Ray Triscari gave me a mouthpiece once to use, I was playing a Purviance 4*D4, and after two sets I was bleeding from Ray's mouthpiece. Now that was small.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too hard to find a small deep cup - but most of them are egg shaped or have a funnel component. Since you say "bowl shaped" I assume you are looking for a sound like a Bach 2 1/2, 2 3/4 .

Small and deep and bowl shaped (inside of cup bows out to a greater diameter than the bite area) - only one stock mouthpiece comes to mind

Bach 8 3/4 no letter.

Schilke 9 and Bach 6 and Bach 7 B are nice mouthpieces that play larger than they measure but they are not true "bowls" in my opinion.

http://kanstul.com/MPcompare/MouthpieceComparator.html
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a Bach 3.
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