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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:12 am Post subject: Chet Baker 1949 Recording
In the book Deep in a Dream there is mention of a 1949 recording of Chet Baker that still exists. I however can find nothing of this recording online. Does anybody have any info on how to listen to this recording? Chetophiles unite, I NEED YOUR HELP!
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Last edited by craigtrumpet on Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:30 am; edited 1 time in total
Agreed Ray! There is another Chet post right under this one that I made a few weeks back, and this video was what started the conversation. _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:32 am Post subject:
kehaulani wrote:
Is that really Chet or an overdub?
The video footage doesn’t line up with the audio, but I’m sure that the audio is Chet’s playing. They probably recorded the gig and picked this solo in the editing room and then spliced together video footage of different angles and shots recorded throughout the evening to accompany the audio. _________________ "Run towards your problems, not from them"
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:02 am Post subject:
Craig, I don't men to be onery, but is that an educated guess or based on first-hand knowledge that this is Chet? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:29 am Post subject:
kehaulani wrote:
Craig, I don't men to be onery, but is that an educated guess or based on first-hand knowledge that this is Chet?
Nope, just a guess. I’ve been listening to Chet (from this time period too) morning, noon, and night for weeks on end now and it sounds like Chet to me. This clip comes from a short documentary on Chet, seems like it would be really strange to follow a musician around recording him for a documentary and then not include his own music in the documentary.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:22 am Post subject:
craigtrumpet wrote:
kehaulani wrote:
Craig, I don't men to be onery, but is that an educated guess or based on first-hand knowledge that this is Chet?
Nope, just a guess. I’ve been listening to Chet (from this time period too) morning, noon, and night for weeks on end now and it sounds like Chet to me.
Man, that's tough the time and articulation sure do, but I've not heard him spend that much time "upstairs" before, and there's a lot more harmonic action going on. Very interesting... _________________ Jeff Helgesen
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:17 am Post subject:
Check out Chet's first solo in the video below, it's a slow burn but Chet shows off his double time bebop chops and a little bit of playing in his upper register. But I mainly chose this solo because Chet plays the same lick (or effect?) at the 1:36 (and 4:10 too) as he does in the documentary video at 1:52.
Not definitive proof, but I think it makes for a good case that it's Chet's playing in the documentary.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:45 am Post subject:
It's definitely Chet in the video. That particular video upload isn't in sync with the audio but a previous version that was up on YouTube was and there's no question it's Chet. If you've checked out the albums he did with George Coleman and the Kirk Lightsey trio from the mid 60's (Groovin', Smokin, Boppin, and Burnin' with the Chet Baker Quintet), he's playing similar double-time bebop lines like in the video, albeit on flugelhorn. Also, there's the date he did in Italy called "Chet is Back!" where he plays some pretty muscular stuff, like his solo on Well You Needn't:
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject:
Craig, that 1975 concert you posted was great to hear. Guess Chet's chops were feeling extra good that day! And you're definitely right, he's playing that same shape in the upper register that he does on the B&W blues video. _________________ Ray Callender
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It's definitely Chet in the video. That particular video upload isn't in sync with the audio but a previous version that was up on YouTube was and there's no question it's Chet. If you've checked out the albums he did with George Coleman and the Kirk Lightsey trio from the mid 60's (Groovin', Smokin, Boppin, and Burnin' with the Chet Baker Quintet), he's playing similar double-time bebop lines like in the video, albeit on flugelhorn. Also, there's the date he did in Italy called "Chet is Back!" where he plays some pretty muscular stuff, like his solo on Well You Needn't:
I transcribed this solo a bit ago, thought I'd share it here in case anyone wants it. The pitch on the recording was super sharp, just a heads up. If you play this transcription with the video, push your slide all the way in!
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