Trill

adc · Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:04 am Post subject: Trill

I have seen this both ways:
Example: Trill when the principal note is B. The the note above is a C where the key signature makes it a C#. As a practical matter its not really "possible"" to trill between Low B natural and C#. So it would be C ?.

Seems to me the rule would be (regardless of key signature) to trill a half tone above. Yet when you trill a G you would trill G and A.

I am guessing the real answer is to determine if the chord is "major" or "minor"

Granted this dilemma is rare but if you have played Bousquet's 36 studies he throws the kitchen sink in his pieces.

Readers digest: Do you trill the principle note a tone or half tone up?

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cheiden · Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:46 pm Post subject:

From Wikipedia...
"The usual way of executing a trill, known as a diatonic trill, is to rapidly alternate between the note indicated and the note directly above it in the given scale (unless the trill symbol is modified by an accidental, understood to apply to the added note above; this is a chromatic trill)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trill_(music)

As a practical matter I have taken liberties when the prescribed interval is too difficult to execute cleanly.
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harryjamesworstnightmare · Veteran Member Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 167

Sometimes the easiest workaround is to play a trumpet in a different key. Bb trumpets used to tune to A for example. Play the trill on a C, D, Eb, or G trumpet as long as the timbre isn't too messed up. Or, just dig out Clark Technical Studies and start wood-shedding on the Fourth Study.
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adc · Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:40 pm Post subject:

Crazy Finn · Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:44 pm Post subject:

It would be correct to trill to the next note within that key. In your example, it's C#.

Sometimes a work around can be found with odd alternate fingerings.

If you're just playing for yourself, whatever, take a liberty or two. If you were taking lessons with my college prof, you better at least try to do it correctly.

Also, you'll never get better at weird and awkward trills if you don't actually practice them. There's a bunch in the old Rubank Advanced Method, and kids are like "You'll never need that." I'm like "Hmm.... maybe not today. But...."
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