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kehaulani
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| adagiotrumpet wrote: |
We've used Pledge in the shop for years and it doesn't seem to build up. It does contain solvents, so we first spray the Pledge on a lint free rag and wait a few seconds for the solvents to dissipate. |
Thanks, Adagio.
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James Becker
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I forgot to mention, we use the non-aerosol pump (fragrance free) variety of Pledge furniture wax, therefore no propellants.
File under “Less is more...”
We’ve also been informed by a number of trombone players they’ve found non-aerosol Pledge wax to be an excellent lubricant for troublesome hand slides. No joke.
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Jaw04
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Thank you everyone. I think I will try to incorporate wiping down the instrument as part of my trumpet hygiene. If lacquer wears off a trumpet, is the brass at risk of being compromised?
I've never owned a raw brass horn. Will raw brass deteriorate over time if its not wiped down/disinfected? |
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adagiotrumpet
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| Jaw04 wrote: | Thank you everyone. I think I will try to incorporate wiping down the instrument as part of my trumpet hygiene. If lacquer wears off a trumpet, is the brass at risk of being compromised?
I've never owned a raw brass horn. Will raw brass deteriorate over time if its not wiped down/disinfected? |
I think it depends on your body chemistry. Mine seems top be pretty easy on lacquer, silver plate, and raw brass. But I have purchased horns where the lacquer or plating wore off and the raw brass was actually wearing thin at the contact points. I have seen more than a few times in ads for used horns statements like "preventative patches" which I would assume were soldered on at the contact points where the metal was getting thin. |
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Wondra
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Another treatment that works well is to use Old English Scratch Cover for Dark Woods. Apply it to the horn, let it sit for an hour, then wipe it off. I've been using this treatment for vintage lacquer for years. It will "lubricate" the lacquer and help prevent flaking, honeycombs, and wear. For horns that are stored, apply every couple months; for daily players, weekly.
Whenever I want to photograph a horn, I do a treatment before hand and it really brings out the richness and luster of the lacquer.
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| Dennis78 wrote: | | Honestly as posted above. The white gloves |
This. And pure (no cleaners, no abrasives) carnauba wax. |
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| Bill_Bumps wrote: | | Dennis78 wrote: | | Honestly as posted above. The white gloves |
This. And pure (no cleaners, no abrasives) carnauba wax. |
Unless it is part of a uniform or costume I wouldn’t be caught dead playing my trumpet in white gloves, but I do realize not everyone feels that way. |
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yourbrass
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| Wondra wrote: | Another treatment that works well is to use Old English Scratch Cover for Dark Woods. Apply it to the horn, let it sit for an hour, then wipe it off. I've been using this treatment for vintage lacquer for years. It will "lubricate" the lacquer and help prevent flaking, honeycombs, and wear. For horns that are stored, apply every couple months; for daily players, weekly.
Whenever I want to photograph a horn, I do a treatment before hand and it really brings out the richness and luster of the lacquer. |
This is a good trick. I use "Fiddlebrite," a long-discontinued varnish polish for violins. After cleaning off the funk left by drips w/alcohol, the stuff really makes old lacquer look great. I would guess any mild varnish polish might work as well, haven't checked it out.
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kehaulani
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| yourbrass wrote: | | This is a good trick. I use "Fiddlebrite," a long-discontinued varnish polish for violins. |
So, if it's discontinued, what good is it to us?
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If you clean your horn every two weeks or so, (take it apart, soap, water, dry, lube, reassemble) you will be amazed at how long the lacquer lasts.
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kehaulani
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Can anyone tell me where I can get a can of UNSCENTED Pledge? I have gone to five local stores and on the internet of WALMART as well as Amazon and can't find any unscented Pledge anywhere. Any sources? Thanks.
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kehaulani
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Thanks so much but I don't see a way to mail-order it. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.
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Dennis78
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I tried to dig further after I posted because when I went back to see if the link works I noticed there was no purchase option. So far it’s all I’ve found. Everything else for actual sale can be had anywhere. Somewhere must have this product
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My Bach is vintage and raw brass so there is plenty of wear at the contact points. I use a leather wrap from Leather Specialties to mostly protect it from further wear but it also prevents my hands from smelling brassy. I think it works really well. I've had people ask if it dulls the resonance but I can't hear a difference.
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| kehaulani wrote: | | yourbrass wrote: | | This is a good trick. I use "Fiddlebrite," a long-discontinued varnish polish for violins. |
So, if it's discontinued, what good is it to us? |
Look for a violin varnish cleaner. If it has a piney scent, you're on the right track.
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