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WalkGood New Member
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:46 am Post subject: Haven't played regularly since early 1990's!!! |
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Started in 1975 in junior high. Moved to new school where they all started in 3rd grade! After a year of being far behind, parents got me lessons during Summer. Was first chair by 11th grade. Actually had half scholarship for music in University. Changed careers, but still played regularly in adult theater pit orchestras. Then stopped cold turkey in 1992!!!
Once a year or so, I pick it up for fun but quickly reminded my lips cannot play for more than 5 minutes.
Today was such a day. Valves needed oil. My supply is almost empty. Looked online for my favorite oil from back in the day "Slick Stuff". Not finding it. Now there are synthetic oils? Whaaaaat? Found this website forum with a survey of favorite oils from 2008. Then saw THIS forum for Comeback Players. Thinking maybe I'll start playing again.
Anywho...... what oil should I buy?
My horn is a Bach Strad from 1978! |
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delano Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 3118 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:05 am Post subject: |
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La Tromba T2 Special, that's the best, but....
75 other suggestions will follow |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2036 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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I've had good luck with Five Starr, Hetman, Monster, Ultra Pure....Perhaps as important is which "weight" as each of those oils comes in different weights. If your valves are tight then regular or light/fast; if they are looser, then the heavier weight.
[Edit: Also good luck with Denis Wick, Getzen/Edwards, La Tromba T2, Spacefiller....Plenty of good options. If you are in doubt, pick two and give them a try. Make sure you thoroughly clean the valves before switching from one to another.]
Welcome back to trumpet playing!
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cgaiii Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jun 2017 Posts: 1545 Location: Virginia USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Some say it depends on the horn, kind of valves, etc. I have had good luck with Hetman #1, which I use on most of my trumpets with tighter valve clearances. Also with La Tromba T2 which was recommended for my flugel. Used Yamaha synthetic for years on a Yamaha horn with great results. _________________ Bb: Schilke X3L AS SP, Yamaha YTR-6335S
C: Schilke CXL, Kanstul 1510-2
Picc: Kanstul 920
Bb Bugle: Kanstul
Bb Pocket: Manchester Brass
Flugel: Taylor Standard
Bass Trumpet: BAC Custom
Natural Tr: Custom Haas replica by Nikolai Mänttäri Morales |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8333 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think I vaguely remember "Slick Stuff."
Before you change or switch oils, I highly recommend cleaning the horn, or at the bare minimum, the valves and casings. Oils do not always mix well and you want whatever you are going to use to start with a clean slate, not have to work with the sludgy remains of the old.
The best 3 oils in my opinion:
- Yamaha Synthetic, comes in Light, Regular, and Vintage (heavier for older horns with worn valves). Superb in every horn I've tried it in (Yamaha, Benge, Selmer Paris, Kanstul, etc...
- Ultra Pure, works great. Yamaha is better in my Selmer, but excellent oil.
- Hetman. The venerable classic. Bit harder to find than the other two.
I used to use Al Cass Fast for decades. It didn't smell or irritate my throat and felt good on my valves. Eventually my Yamaha valves got worn to the point that it no longer functioned w/ Al Cass. Switched to Tech-Oil which was thicker and provided by my repair tech. It worked, valves were smooth, but heavy and slow. Added a little Al Cass to it and then it was workable. Haven't tried any of the above oils on the old Yamaha, but when I dust it off next, I will.
Oils that might be good (or might not), but didn't use because of the odor: 5 Starr, Lynzoil, Monster, Fat Cat. Monster seemed totally solid, for sure.
Oils that are ... eh. (or meh): Holton, Bach, generic store band oil (they're pretty much all the same)
Oils I have not used: Denis Wick, La Tromba, Brass Spa/Reeves
Oil that is terrible: Blue Juice. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn |
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Kumara999 Veteran Member
Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Posts: 138 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:01 am Post subject: Oil |
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I also have 2 thumbs up for the La Tromba T2 and T3. I have also had a lot of success on one fineky horn with the Bach Linzoil. |
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