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Blessing or CarolBrass Flugelhorn |
Blessing (BFH-1541RTS) |
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CarolBrass (CFL-6200-GSS - Bb- BG) |
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dcinboston New Member
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 5 Location: 01890
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:00 pm Post subject: Blessing or CarolBrass Flugelhorn? |
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So, I just bought three (3) flugelhorns. I'm trying them and will return the other two. One of them is a Wisemann $300, which is not in the running. It sounds and feels far less smooth and solid as the Blessing and CarolBrass.
As for the the Blessing (BFH-1541RTS) and CarolBrass (CFL-6200-GSS - Bb- BG). Anyone with opinions on the quality or any other opinions of these two horns would be greatly appreciated.
Best,
dc _________________ David Coughlin
Boston
Trumpet/Flugel
davidcoughlin4@gmail.com |
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6159
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Carol Brass horns are generally consistent and well made.
The only Blessing flugelhorn I tried was not playable due to stuck-open Amado key. |
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deleted_user_687c31b New Member
Joined: 03 Apr 1996 Posts: 0
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Not gonna vote because it's so personal. Try them, with different mouthpieces if you can, record yourself and listen back. Pick the one that feels right.
Good luck! |
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James Becker Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 2827 Location: Littleton, MA
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Thie BFH-1541RT is newest model Blessing flugelhorn, it’s the result of the efforts by Phil Bauchman, and it’s a fine player. We’ve sold several of this model, one to a member of Berklee School of Music faculty, he totally digs how it sounds and plays. This model has lever water keys btw.
Unfortunately, I haven’t had any experience yet with Carol Flugelhorns to have an opinion of them. If the trumpets are any indication they’re very well made.
I hope this is helpful. _________________ James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
77 Powdermill Road Rt.62
Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com
Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store https://www.ups.com/dropoff?loc=en_US |
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Shawnino Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2020 Posts: 255
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:47 am Post subject: |
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I have not tried the new Blessing.
I tried several Carols. I settled on/bought the 9990 (red brass), I like it a lot, warm, but I liked the gold brass one too.
+1 to trying different mouthpieces. The pack-in on the Carol is pretty lousy, I don’t know why they bother. Basically a poor take on a Bach3. |
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dcinboston New Member
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 5 Location: 01890
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help and advice. I noticed that you sell mouth pieces and, some of the other posts recommend using a different mouthpiece than the one that comes with the CarolBrass. I'm not too far from Acton. Are you open to
discussing and recommending a specific mouthpiece?
Thanks,
David Coughlin
781-572-5050 _________________ David Coughlin
Boston
Trumpet/Flugel
davidcoughlin4@gmail.com |
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dcinboston New Member
Joined: 22 Jul 2020 Posts: 5 Location: 01890
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the response to my post and suggestion about the mouthpiece. It seems tough to figure out what would be a good one for me. I'm about a year months into re-building an embouchure that has been dormant for about 20 years. (I was fairly dedicated to my trumpet and cornet for 15 years before.)
I'm hearing that a deep mouthpiece will provide a better sound with lower notes as well as help to create a lower "smoky" sound. What are your thoughts on flat vs. rounded rims? Size of rim/diameter of cup?
What would you recommend? _________________ David Coughlin
Boston
Trumpet/Flugel
davidcoughlin4@gmail.com |
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CalicchioMan Veteran Member
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 336 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:14 pm Post subject: flugelhorn |
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Please see my signature line...
Best.
Scott _________________ Yamaha 8310ZII
Yamaha 631G Flugelhorn
Mendini Superbone
Pickett Mouthpieces |
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scottfsmith Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 472 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I play my Carol with the stock mouthpiece. I tried a couple others which sounded a bit better tone-wise but were too flat in the high register. Curry 5FL for example. It is a personal thing, I use Monette-style backbores on trumpet so am used to wider octaves.
I have not tried any Blessings but have been very happy with my Carol. _________________ Thane Standard Large Bb / Monette Unity B6-7M mpc
Lots of vintage trumpets and mouthpieces |
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Shawnino Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2020 Posts: 255
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:44 am Post subject: |
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I use Wick mouthpieces on everything (Trumpet, Fluegel, Tenor Horn, Euph).
Seems a bit lazy but I'm happy with them. |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2018 Posts: 1020 Location: East Asia
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:35 am Post subject: |
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I have tried a fairly eclectic range of mouthpieces: Jupiter, ACB Fab 5, Curry 5DFL, and the Manchester, which is apparently a Carol 3. I actually like the Carol mouthpieces. I found their flugelhorn to be a nice deep sound with a wide, comfortable rim. I liked the sound on the Curry the best but also found it a bit wonky. I have not tried the Bach and Yamaha ones yet. It does seem like matching mouthpiece and flugelhorn is a known issue, so I'd see how the sound is with the stock mouthpieces and/or your favorite mouthpiece, since it may be more challenging than you'd think to upgrade the mouthpiece. |
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dupac Regular Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 65 Location: Bordeaux, France
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:53 am Post subject: |
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After many many years with several vintage Couesnon, I have preferred the Carol Brass, witch is now my favorite flugelhorn.
I use two mouthpieces with it, a Monette Prana and a AR Resonance, both equally well suited to this awesome horn. _________________ Mikel Dupac / LawlerC7 / CarolBrass flugelhorn + pockets / Olds Super / Conn New Wonder cornet / Music is the healing force of the Universe |
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James Becker Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 2827 Location: Littleton, MA
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:57 am Post subject: |
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dcinboston wrote: | Thanks for the help and advice. I noticed that you sell mouth pieces and, some of the other posts recommend using a different mouthpiece than the one that comes with the CarolBrass. I'm not too far from Acton. Are you open to
discussing and recommending a specific mouthpiece?
Thanks,
David Coughlin
781-572-5050 |
I can only assume you were talking to me. Yes, we’re open for business 10am-5pm M-F and Saturday 10am-2pm. We also have all our mouthpieces listed online should you want to browse before your visit.
We look forward to your visit. _________________ James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
77 Powdermill Road Rt.62
Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com
Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store https://www.ups.com/dropoff?loc=en_US |
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DJtpt31 Veteran Member
Joined: 02 Dec 2015 Posts: 308 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Blessing or CarolBrass Flugelhorn? |
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dcinboston wrote: | So, I just bought three (3) flugelhorns. I'm trying them and will return the other two. One of them is a Wisemann $300, which is not in the running. It sounds and feels far less smooth and solid as the Blessing and CarolBrass.
As for the the Blessing (BFH-1541RTS) and CarolBrass (CFL-6200-GSS - Bb- BG). Anyone with opinions on the quality or any other opinions of these two horns would be greatly appreciated.
Best,
dc |
Please share your experience on how both horns plays. _________________ "You need F-15's..." Joe Biden |
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