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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:18 am    Post subject: Horn Angle Reply with quote

Hi All -- As you'll note from my user name, I'm a IIIB. One thing that Doc and Dave Sheetz both had to constantly remind me about--because I don't do it well--is to keep weight on the lower lip and stay with the lower jaw, using the upper lip as a "trump card" for the higher upper register. Recently, I tried lowering the angle of my horn very slightly. I don't think that it would be noticeable to someone looking at me play, but it does feel very different and does seem to help in regard to what Doc and Dave were after me to do. Does anyone have a similar experience or any insights to share? I'd be most grateful to hear from you. Thanks, and stay well!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. This is partially in response to Jay Kosta's recent post about lower-lip pressure.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and perhaps think of it as placing more lightly on the upper lip, rather than adjusting the horn angle.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, and perhaps think of it as placing more lightly on the upper lip, rather than adjusting the horn angle.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gdghorn wrote:
bg wrote:
Yes, and perhaps think of it as placing more lightly on the upper lip, rather than adjusting the horn angle.


If you don't mind me giving some advice on horn angle. I found recently in a good way that I must set my mouthpiece on the most stable, comfortable spot. In doing that you will find the right angle. The most important part I left for last. You start with your top and bottom teeth together. The front teeth together, not the back teeth. You then open up your teeth only slightly as you do a breath attach and sound a low C or 2nd line G. The initial note might be much louder than normal for the effort. That is GOOD. If that works for you you've found the angle and jaw position that should work for you in all registers. I always go back to the teeth together position and go from there when I find myself drifting off...

This is definitely not a procedure that Doc Reinhardt taught or would have endorsed. See the Thirty Five Basic Points of the Pivot System (also visible at the top of the front page of this Reinhardt Forum). Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, the fresher my chops feel, the easier it is to put more weight on the lower lip. You can't just force it, though, by saying, "I'm going to put more weight on the lower lip now." You have to train your chops to do it over time.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all have different bone structure, teeth and muscle structure. This is really something that has to be personal, and a good teacher adapts to the unique situation of the student. Any blanket statements are doomed to be contradicted by the diversity in the human form. The greatest challenge for those of us who had skilled teachers is to recognize the difference between global truth and what our teachers told us that was specific to us.
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