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trumpet56
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 Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:49 am Post subject: Bach New York Vintage C Trumpet with a 10-62Bell |
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| Does any one have experience with this configuration? What leadpipe would work best for this trumpet? |
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OldSchoolEuph
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It depends what sound and fell you are going for. Traditionally a 6, but traditionally that also has known intonation issues and a stuffy feel compared to alternatives. A modern C pipe may also be a bit off given that the 10 bell is one of the earliest. I would try a 7, though Selmer always said that darkened the tone, or if the tuning slide is in the mix too, a 25R.
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| What’s on it now? Why do you think it needs to change? |
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trumpet56
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| Rompson wrote: | | What’s on it now? Why do you think it needs to change? |
The trumpet has a Conn leadpipe. |
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OldSchoolEuph
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| trumpet56 wrote: | | Rompson wrote: | | What’s on it now? Why do you think it needs to change? |
The trumpet has a Conn leadpipe. |
Yikes.
Any Bach pipe is probably an improvement. The important thing is that whoever installs it needs to be skilled. Fitting a pipe, that when you buy it stock will be cut for a Bb, to a C instead, requires a level of knowledge not everyone has.
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1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
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1975 Olds Recording R-20 |
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trumpet56
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| OldSchoolEuph wrote: | | trumpet56 wrote: | | Rompson wrote: | | What’s on it now? Why do you think it needs to change? |
The trumpet has a Conn leadpipe. |
Yikes.
Any Bach pipe is probably an improvement. The important thing is that whoever installs it needs to be skilled. Fitting a pipe, that when you buy it stock will be cut for a Bb, to a C instead, requires a level of knowledge not everyone has. |
I have a selection of bach and blackburn leadpipes I can try. But I wonder if a vintage pipe would work better? |
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JoeLoeffler
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| There is no magic in a vintage Bach leadpipe. (The bell is where the unobtainable qualities largely lie on NY and MtV instruments.) Give DoctorValve a call. He has a lot of experience making excellent leadpipes for these early Bachs. |
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James Becker
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Getting a screen shot of the shop card would indicate the original leadpipe number. If you provide the serial number I can find out for you and go from there. Please send it to me via private message.
We stock a good selection of genuine Bach C trumpet mouthpipes or can source it if we don’t have it. And I can expertly install it for you too.
I hope this is helpful.
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trumpet56
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I have emailed the shop card to you, |
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rockford
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It sounds to me like this is a parts horn. A 10 bell would be very unusual on a Bach C trumpet.
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trumpet56
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| rockford wrote: | | It sounds to me like this is a parts horn. A 10 bell would be very unusual on a Bach C trumpet. |
The shop card shows that this was one of the first 'long model' Bach C's. The bell is not engraved 10-62, the 62 refers to the large bore size. |
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rockford
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| trumpet56 wrote: | | rockford wrote: | | It sounds to me like this is a parts horn. A 10 bell would be very unusual on a Bach C trumpet. |
The shop card shows that this was one of the first 'long model' Bach C's. The bell is not engraved 10-62, the 62 refers to the large bore size. |
Interesting? Can you send me the serial number? A partial number will work if you're more comfortable with that
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