One last BE question confirmation.

kehaulani · Last edited by kehaulani on Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:24 am; edited 2 times in total

I've been under the impression that the first playing you do in the day is BE. And that you use the order that's written in the book. Simple.

I've just spent over half an hour searching this and have come up with a lot of procedures different from what I just related. Did I miss, or forget, something in the book? Thanks.
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trumpetteacher1 · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:31 am Post subject:

I just responded to this in a recent email:

For best results, students should practice the BE exercises every day.

By "BE exercises", I mean the main exercises including HTE, Crescendo, TOL, RI, RO, and ALS. Where RI, RO, and ALS are placed in your routine is the main variable. And that variable is determined by how much progress you experience by doing those exercises, particularly RO and RI. Some players will feel more success using RO, and vice-versa. Both can still be done, but one will usually be weighed more than the other.

Players who gravitate more to RI exercises start their day with RI. Players who gravitate to RO exercises either start with RO, or do the core exercises (HTE, Cresc, TOL) first, and then do RO sometimes afterward. When RO gets advanced (up to high C on RO #4), RO can be alternated with ALS every other day.

Jeff

kehaulani · Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:48 pm Post subject:

Thanks, folks.

I have two other questions:
1) What is HTE?
2) I thought the exercises were sequential not accumulative. Which is it?
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mike ansberry · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:58 am Post subject:

I assume HTE is Hold Till Empty. But then we should wait for Master Smiley to enlighten us.

(That was not meant to sound sarcastic)
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trumpetteacher1 · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:59 am Post subject:

Mike is correct about HTE.

Plus, virtually all the BE exercises are accumulative.

I answered this in more detail in a direct email to you, kehaulani.

Jeff

kehaulani · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:23 am Post subject:

Thank you very much, Sir.

I don't know how, but somehow I got the impression that when you finished one exercise, you followed on with the next one (only). But instead, when you finished with a first exercise, you added the next exercise rather than replacing it.

So that you are eventually playing exercise 1 and 2 and 3 etc., correct?. Thanks, again
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trumpetteacher1 · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:04 am Post subject:

The lesson plans in the back of the book are pretty explicit.

On page 140 for example, RO 1-4 means that you do them all in a single session. You don't get good at one then abandon it for the next. You play one THRU four.

Not sure how you interpreted it differently.

Jeff

kehaulani · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:25 am Post subject:

Thank you.
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steve0930 · Veteran Member Joined: 07 May 2018 Posts: 191

Hi BE Explorers..
Here is an old post (when Ko was very young) about order of BE exercises..clearly what is great about BE is it gives you freedom to find the right BE mix for you and this could/will / change over time I guess. After reading this thread I have decided to spend more time on the crescendo exercise.. I don't quite see the point of it but if experts swear by it I should and will give it a go and see..

Steve' 10 second rule.
I have an old tuba in my pub (read converted garage) with a bucket of a mp. I play on it for 1 minute for fun. I then pick up the trumpet and the mp feels incredibly small. My point ? The brain has an amazing ability to remember the last 10 seconds and forget the accumulated history of experience. (Maybe that's one secret of evolution!) For this reason sometimes I go straight from a hard RI or RO exercise to playing music immediately. By the same logic at the moment during the day I favour interval sessions: short bursts of BE followed by playing music as opposed to one big daily BE session..

cheers for now and hope you have a nice week end Steve

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kehaulani · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:22 am Post subject: