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Concertone Cornet - How Many Slides?



 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:44 pm    Post subject: Concertone Cornet - How Many Slides? Reply with quote

Hi,
I just bought a cheap and cheerful Concertone cornet from eBay. It arrived today. All of the slides are really stuck.

I'm guessing that it is from the 1920/30s. I'm not familiar with this configuration of horn. Are there two slides on the leadpipe wrap? I can't quite tell because the larger leadpipe crook near the mouthpiece end has no discoloration that slides usually have and does NOT move at all. I was only able to free the water key end tuning slide and the 3rd valve slide. The others are just 'frozen' shut.



I think there are a total of 5 slides on this instrument, but wanted to throw a picture out there to confirm. Thanks...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve looked at a few other images of the Concertone cornet and one of them has a screw system on the second bend that makes me think that it may be designed to switch the pitch between A and Bb. My guess is that the first bend is the actual tuning slide. So you may be right. Have you talked to a repair tech about it yet?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hibidogrulez wrote:
I’ve looked at a few other images of the Concertone cornet and one of them has a screw system on the second bend that makes me think that it may be designed to switch the pitch between A and Bb. My guess is that the first bend is the actual tuning slide. So you may be right. Have you talked to a repair tech about it yet?


Thanks for your reply. I subsequently found a picture of the same horn online, and it is a double tuning slide leadpipe. I'm going to take it to my brass tech next week for him to free the frozen slides and re-solder a crook joint that is loose.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first slide in the leadpipe (on top) may be both a high/low pitch control and the quick-change from A to Bb (with the stop rod). The lower slide is the tuning slide - which in some cases can also be the high/low pitch control by means of a second slide.

It looks like the upper slide is stuck all way out at the A position. Either slide could be HP/LP, but whichever it is, you have the high pitch slide, not the low pitch A=440Hz slide
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