ConnQureor 1905

[FrankHgh]

I have a connqueror and need a mouthpiece, Just checking to see what other player would recommend
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Martin Handcraft dansant
King 601
Cornets- Connqueror, Conn 17A

[OldSchoolEuph]

1905 would be at the tail end of the use of some really ornate Conn mouthpieces. Here is one such currently on EBay (for a steep price): https://www.ebay.com/i/264689903864?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=264689903864&targetid=935431405133&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9028310&poi=&campaignid=10454521601&mkgroupid=104612011660&rlsatarget=pla-935431405133&abcId=2146002&merchantid=6387084&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzInWq8S37AIVOv3jBx2QPwCKEAQYDCABEgJi4_D_BwE

And a better photo in an expired Reverb entry: https://reverb.com/item/12003015-rare-vintage-conn-cornet-gold-plate-conn-model-18-mouthpiece-very-ornate-nice
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Ron Berndt
www.trumpet-history.com

2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
1965 Besson Baritone
1975 Olds Recording R-20

[Shifty]

I'm no expert and defer to those like Ron who are, however...

I have a 1903 Connqueror along with both the Conn #18 and Conn Wonder Model #19 mouthpieces, which I assume are the appropriate period pieces. So they obviously give the horn the right look and authentic sound.

Be aware that you might not enjoy playing with these "cookie cutter" models. Some folks find them uncomfortable (hence the name). Moreover, they are quite small. I generally play on 16mm cups (Wick 5, Stork 5, etc) and even I find the old Conn pieces pretty small. The #19 is the larger of the two and works for me, but the #18 is too small for my skinny lips.

My horn has a crack in the collar on the receiver which has probably allowed some distortion, so I've found that modern mouthpieces actually fit ok. But it takes a fairly deep V cup to make it sound right.
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Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
ACB Doubler Flugelhorn

[OldSchoolEuph]

[Denny Schreffler]

Contemporary, vintage mpcs not only give the right sound and the right appearance, they give the right feel.

The Conn Model 18 has a sharp shoulder (bite) from the rim into the cup but the rim is not extremely narrow and it’s very comfortably crowned – not a true cookie cutter, something very playable.

Another nice-playing possibility from the period immediately following and partially overlapping the era of your cornet would be a Conn Leick (Mabel Keith Leick, a virtuoso soloist who studied with Jules Levy at the Conn Conservatory in 1899) – more modern looking (and heavier and slightly longer than the 18) and really nice sounding.

Also, the Curry “Vintage Cornet” pieces have a nicely-vintage appearance if you’re looking for something that is designed to give a vintage-ish sound on modern instruments.

I’ve got a CONN MODEL 18 with more engraving (all around the bowl and up under the rim) than the one linked to on eBay and in better condition than the expired listing on Reverb. The fancy bowls were made from before the turn of the century and probably up until 1914. I played it when I used a cornet designed in the very early part of the 20th Century but haven’t used it in 20 years. I also have a Conn Leick that I like even more than the 18 but I’ve never had a chance to perform on it.

Since all of my Conn cornets are from the ‘40s and early ‘60s, I’ll sell the MODEL 18 and the LEICK cornet mouthpieces if someone on this thread is interested → PM me and we’ll talk thru regular email.

-Denny