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Gregory Gilmore Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:41 am Post subject: Favorite musical |
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"Kiss of the Spider Woman" (There's a terrific trumpet solo towards the end of Act 1) |
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Tony Scodwell Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1961
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:07 am Post subject: Boadway shows |
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I'll admit to hating Broadway shows, at least from a musicians standpoint. Let me cite a few of my reasons:
Key signatures in multiple flats with ascending double sharp notes.
Key signatures in multiple sharps with descending double flat notes.
Cuts on the fly in rehearsal to suit inadequate singers who can't count.
Parts which have been marked beyond recognition.
Music directors who feel one trumpet is sufficient after the Broadway version used at least two (oh yes, cover the french horn cues too).
Where are the reeds? Oh yes, on the synth.
Tony Scodwell
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benlewis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 1009 Location: Memphis, TN
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Tony,
In the tour and rental version of Newsies, they literally gave some bari sax notes to the trumpet in the second act, so you have to jump from low G to Bb above the staff. And the trombone is not playing.
Good times... |
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Tony Scodwell Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:37 pm Post subject: Broadway shows |
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In my (admittedly) limited show playing experience, expecting very small groups to cover very large orchestrations is to say the least, absurd. One show I remember is having to jump from the Bb to piccolo in one bar, and not a slow tempo at that. My wife absolutely adores West Side Story and paid serious dough to see it here in Las Vegas at our grand performing arts center. Not that the stage wasn't big enough for the compliment of dancers, six or eight were on the performance here with the orchestra sitting on vertical risers for the appearance of a larger ensemble. One horn in each section was a bit shy of what should be playing this score. Oh yes, synth re-inforcement made up for that. Sure!
Tony Scodwell
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8911 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a glutton for punishment. I've done a number of shows covering multiple wind parts on Bb, flugel, and picc while also covering select parts from the Keyboard II book on my vintage DX7. Le Mis and Cats are two that leap to mind. We're talking children's theater so it's a pretty forgiving environment. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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sapper Regular Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 74 Location: NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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So many favorites:
In The Heights
Something Rotten
Wicked
Frozen
The Book of Mormon
Drowsy Chaperone
Pippin
Matilda
Hair _________________ Cathy
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plankowner110 Heavyweight Member
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mike ansberry Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 1605 Location: Clarksville, Tn
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:37 am Post subject: |
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It has been a few years since I played musicals. Some musicals I liked for the music, some for the story, some both. I enjoyed playing a lot of musicals. A few were torture.
I enjoyed playing Fiddler, Camelot, Carousel, 1776, Man of La Mancha, and Music Man. Those are the ones that stand out in my memory.
I did not enjoy playing Cabaret. What a dark show. And Marat Sade for the same reason. _________________ Music is a fire in your belly, fighting to get out. You'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt. |
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DickieG64 Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 114 Location: Weehawken, New Jersey
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Chorus Line
Dream Girls
Nice Work If You Can Get It _________________ Chicago Benge Large bore 1947
Monette B993
Taylor Flugelhorn
Kanstul -Charlie Davis pic prototype never produced
Conn 80A Cornet
Taylor Flugle Horn
Kanstul-Charlie Davis Prototype Piccolo-never produced
1946 Conn 80A cornet |
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Bflatman Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lets talk turkey here
There is no reason why any trumpet cornet of flugel player cannot play music in performances for audiences every day if they want to.
I played today and yesterday and the day before.
The problem is not in inflicting music on people it is in inflicting beauty rather than inflicting pain.
Playing through the lockdowns for the last 10 months has really helped people make it through.
The park is only a few minutes away. The mall is only a few minutes away. you dont need to be within 50 yards of anyone to perform for them.
As for the question
Anything lyrical and bluesy.
Today I was playing davenport blues, green leaves of summer, ashokan farewell, some adele, some vangelis, and a few bits and pieces. _________________ Conn 80a Cornet
Boosey & Hawkes Emperor Trumpet
Olds Fullerton Special Trumpet
Selmer Invicta Trumpet
Yamaha YCR 2330II Cornet
Selmer Student Trumpet
Bohland and Fuchs peashooter Trumpet
Boosey and Hawkes Regent Cornet
Lark M4045 Cornet |
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Rapier232 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Bflatman wrote: | Lets talk turkey here
There is no reason why any trumpet cornet of flugel player cannot play music in performances for audiences every day if they want to.
I played today and yesterday and the day before.
The problem is not in inflicting music on people it is in inflicting beauty rather than inflicting pain.
Playing through the lockdowns for the last 10 months has really helped people make it through.
The park is only a few minutes away. The mall is only a few minutes away. you dont need to be within 50 yards of anyone to perform for them.
As for the question
Anything lyrical and bluesy.
Today I was playing davenport blues, green leaves of summer, ashokan farewell, some adele, some vangelis, and a few bits and pieces. |
Good for you, but what are your favourite musicals to play for? The subject of this thread. _________________ "Nearly as good as I need to be. Not nearly as good as I want to be".
Smith-Watkins Bb
Will Spencer Bb
Eclipse Flugel
Smith Watkins K2 Cornet
JP152 C Trumpet
Besson Bugle |
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razeontherock Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10609 Location: The land of GR and Getzen
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Broadway shows |
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Tony Scodwell wrote: | In my (admittedly) limited show playing experience, expecting very small groups to cover very large orchestrations is to say the least, absurd. One show I remember is having to jump from the Bb to piccolo in one bar, and not a slow tempo at that. My wife absolutely adores West Side Story and paid serious dough to see it here in Las Vegas at our grand performing arts center. Not that the stage wasn't big enough for the compliment of dancers, six or eight were on the performance here with the orchestra sitting on vertical risers for the appearance of a larger ensemble. One horn in each section was a bit shy of what should be playing this score. Oh yes, synth re-inforcement made up for that. Sure!
Tony Scodwell
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You are reminding me why the last musical I played was in 1981. Never had to deal with the stripped down pit orchestra. I heard the tales though ... |
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