Skeletonized trumpet mouthpiece

giakara · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:14 pm Post subject: Skeletonized trumpet mouthpiece

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353308858398

Hi guys , I won this piece and I wonder if you have any infos about this rare beast.

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Winghorn · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:15 pm Post subject:

I don't know about your mouthpiece, but I had a Leblanc mouthpiece that was quite similar in appearance. Maybe yours was made by Leblanc for some other company?

Subtropical and Subpar · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:22 pm Post subject:

I have a TA2 mouthpiece from Austin Custom Brass in a very similar blank.

EDIT: Never mind, I misread the OP.
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Dale Proctor · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:35 pm Post subject:

I have a LeBlanc mouthpiece that looks very similar, too. I like it, but don’t play it too often.
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giakara · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:59 am Post subject:

Yes I now that it looks exactly like the old Leblancs and this is the reason I get it , I collect pieces that Satchmo use to play and this looks identical to one of Louis pieces I saw at Armstrong museum.
Also it looks to have big and wide rim with very shallow cup that also is close to Louis specifications, mabe is a stencil or a custom order,when I recive it I will post a review,thanks guys.

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Dale Proctor · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:36 am Post subject:

I wonder who B.J.W. Was?
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Tony Scodwell · Heavyweight Member Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 1961

If you have a copy of "The Great Arrival" by Doc Severinsen, he's holding his Getzen Eterna with a Bach mouthpiece in it. When I was his road manager I noticed that mouthpiece was always in his case and asked about the history of it. Doc told me that it started out as a 6C stock Bach and he went in to see Mr. Bach to have it modified. Bach started removing metal and it ended up pretty much like a 5C and some metal was taken off the outside blank giving it the shape seen on the LP cover. He never used it and when I asked if he'd consider gifting it to me the answer was a very quick "NO". The guy threw away 5000 mouthpieces when he moved to Mexico but I am certain he still has that Bach.

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Brad361 · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:32 am Post subject:

I guess this is common knowledge, but “skeletonization” is not new, Schilke offered it in the 70’s or before. I believe they still make a piece that’s similar to the one mentioned, in 6, 13 or 14 a4a sizes, I think it’s a 6 or 13 or 14a4z. As a former 14a4a player, I tried one, it did not seem (to me) much different in sound or playing characteristics than the standard blank.

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giakara · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:23 pm Post subject:

Brad361 · Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:41 pm Post subject:

giakara · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:42 am Post subject:

Thanks Brad , Schmidt mpc maker makes also a skeletonize mpc the Maxim-soloist line but never try one.

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ChuckK · Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:27 am Post subject:

pepperdean · Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:40 pm Post subject:

On a visit to Chicago for a horn consultation, around 1970, I did get a skeletonized copy of the mouthpiece I was using. Schilke told me it would be only good for chamber music because it would not project as well as a regular blank.

BTW, I got a call about three months later to come pick up my new horn. After our day together, Schilke made an X# with a beryllium bell. That horn was a workhorse on a lot of big band gigs.

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nieuwguyski · Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:06 pm Post subject:

I have a LeBlanc cornet mouthpiece in that skeletonized blank, and it's one of my go-to trad-jazz mouthpieces. It works well in both modern cornets I use for those types of gigs and I like the sound I hear, so I keep using it.
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giakara · Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:58 am Post subject:

What size is your piece dnd how deep is ?
I still wait for mine , the mail service at covid time is a nightmare...

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nieuwguyski · Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:21 pm Post subject:

Assuming you're asking me, it's nothing like yours. About a Bach 3 diameter, thin rim, fairly sharp bite, fair amount of undercut, and a fairly shallow cup that transitions into a decent V into the throat.
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giakara · Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:00 am Post subject:

krax · Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:30 am Post subject:

I have sizes 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7C. The 7C is a different animal, not as skeletonized as the others. Number 3 is the smallest and number 6 is the biggest.

Number 6 is also stamped 7B, but that stamp seems like a later addition, so I'm guessing the retailer did it as a Bach comparision. It feels a bit bigger than a Bach 7B to me, but it's not that far away, it may well be the closest Bach piece.

If you're interested, I have two pieces numbered 5 and might part with one of them.

giakara · Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:23 am Post subject:

giakara · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:18 am Post subject:

Hello guys , yesterday I recive the mpc and unfortunately is smaller than I expect it , it has extra shallow cup(shallower that Reeves ES) flat rim and very open bbore (very close to Reeves 69) but the size is around a modern Bach 3C and I don't feel it good to my lips(I use Reeves 43W), for me a mpc like that must be big and with wide rim to support my lips on the extreme registers , anyway is a good collectible mpc for my collection and I will keep it .

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Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
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