How far did you get in the Arban Manual?

BobD

I just picked up Eric Bolvin's Arban Manual. It's just what I need to organize my practice. I was just wondering, if you are using it, how many lessons have you completed? I'm on lesson 1.

On another note I got the spiral bound Hooten Arban. It's really good. The print is very clear and Hooten's notes are a nice touch. Have not yet downloaded the sound files.
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Dave_3 · Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:21 am Post subject:

Page 1.

Then I got "100 Progressive Lessons for Trumpet", by David Hickman.

Not knocking Arban, but the Hickman manual is more my speed.

BobD · Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:47 am Post subject:

Yeah the Hickman book looks good but seemed a bit too "beginner-ish" from the get go.
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Dayton · Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:33 am Post subject:

"The Arban Manual" is a terrific resource. I don't use it for my daily practice, but have referred to it for ideas from time to time. I've played all the material in Arban a number of times over the years, and still play key sections of it on a near-daily basis. Mastery of the material therein is truly the journey of a trumpet-playing lifetime.

Regarding Hickman's "100 Progressive Lessons," it is also a fine book, but the intent is to prepare one to handle the material in more advanced books like Arban, St, Jacome, etc., rather than serve as a substitute for them.

Dave_3 · Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:06 am Post subject:

Yeah, Arban has been the standard forever, but I had a 47 year layoff, so I figured I better start at the beginning.

Croquethed · Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:02 am Post subject:

BobD · Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:26 am Post subject:

Croquethed,

What have you been practicing during your comeback?
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Croquethed · Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:47 am Post subject:

BobD,

My expectations were very low when I started. I wanted to be able to play Taps on Memorial Day, Star Spangled Banner on July 4, Jingle Bells at Christmas, and Auld Lang Syne for New Year's Eve. So I had no illusions about becoming Chris Botti.

About 4 months into the comeback I stumbled on the Bb minor blues scale (all that Arban in HS was not accompanied by a second of theory) and that unlocked the box to simple improv. The next Christmas I asked my wife for the big 1200-song fakebook and discovered it was so big because it had songs nobody wanted to play. So I abandoned sheet music more or less altogether.

So the daily routine is now 15-20 minutes of long tones, 5 minutes of lip slurs, 15-20 minutes of minor and major scales and blues scales up to the top of my range (D-Eb, occasional strong E) as quickly as I can play them, then working on songs and famous riffs I have figured out by ear.

I'm motivated to play every day because I love the sound of the blues coming out of my horn. I never got a teacher and never joined a community band. My approach is definitely not for everybody, but when I practice outside in the local school foyer, I get compliments by the folks out doing their exercise walks. Just passed the seven-year mark and still learning more every day.

BobD · Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:24 pm Post subject:

Croquethed,

That's some good stuff. I find it a challenge to balance fundamentals with learning tunes, transcribing and learning improv. I played sax for 10 years as a comeback player and it was easier to practice jazz and not have to worry so much about fundamentals. I could play sax all day long without a break but trumpet is s different beast.

The blues scales are fun to play. Don't know where you're at but try adding the 2nd and the 6th and do all keys. I remember in high school one summer I had no part time job and I spent hours just playing and riffing on blues scales in all keys. That was on tenor sax but I've been obsessed with fundamentals on trumpet so I should really get into blues on trumpet.
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:31 pm Post subject:

With Arbans as a comeback player the thing I've appreciated is the youtube videos and materials. There are a gazillion duets, etudes, etc. on line now. It is definitely a different dynamic from 20 years ago. I like the idea of having a progression plan and would be glad to hear more about it.

BobD · Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:55 pm Post subject:

HaveTrumpetWillTravel,

Here is a link to the Arban Manual:

https://bolvinmusic.com/product/arban-manual/
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Croquethed · Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:41 pm Post subject:

adc · Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:15 am Post subject:

Well I got thru Arban and started on St.-Jacome almost 60 years ago. Its been 4 years now that I started up again. I use many books now. Ij like Clarke a lot.

If you use Arbans....get the book cut up and spiral bound it into 5 or 6 sections.
Even though that Arbans is not that hard comparatively... obviously one could still be a superb player with using only it, I assume
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ayryq · Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:37 am Post subject:

Are you all still talking about Bolvin's Arban Manual? Or just Arban's itself?
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BobD · Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 6:51 am Post subject:

I started the thread asking how far people have gone thru the Arban Manual. Seems like no many people have used it.
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JayKosta · Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:11 am Post subject:

EBjazz · Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:39 pm Post subject:

BobD · Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:41 pm Post subject:

Eric,

Yup, I got the Hooten version and am working thru it now. Really enjoying it. Just wondered about how far others have progressed.
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EBjazz · Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:53 pm Post subject:

A.N.A.Mendez · Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:53 pm Post subject:

I was 8. I was put in a small cubicle of which there were 12 in a room. The teacher pointed out the days practice pages. I was there for 3 hours every day for years. I got very good.... For my age.

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