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ackmondual Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2018 Posts: 16 Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:25 pm Post subject: Suggestions for practice mute? |
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I'm in an apartment building and would like the option to get in extra practice for a bit, after hours. My main criteria are:
1) Something within say, $50
a bit over is fine. Just don't want something prohibitively expensive
2) Reduce the volume enough that playing at mP or mF would "do the trick"
I used to hear piano practicing, but it was a bit muffled. I can also hear video playing, but again, that's muffled to the point where I can't make out exact noises nor dialog. Ditto when a couple is talking to each other.
I'm not going to be playing a Fortissimo. Don't think you should be playing that loud on a practice mute anyways. Plus, I have yet to reach that level (at least do so without sounding off)
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Off the top of head, I was leaning towards a Denis Wick brand, since the practice mute for euphonium (DW5587 travel version) has been working out quite well. I've read some of the threads, and noticed user JoshRzepka posted some videos about various practice mutes (haven't gone through them yet), but was wondering if the community had any direct suggestions. |
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bagmangood Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 1351 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Bremner Whisper is my go-to for practicing when I don't need to be completely quiet. Least resistant practice mute I've played with! _________________ More than one trumpet
A "few" mouthpieces |
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arthurtwoshedsjackson Veteran Member
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benlewis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 1007 Location: Memphis, TN
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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I bet you already have a bubble mute you like and use; I'd recommend The Silencer:
https://www.trumpetsilencer.com
It works as well as any practice mute I've tried and, if you judiciously control your air, has very little back pressure.
Another tip I have picked up is, if feasible, get a match for your current mouthpiece and have the throat enlarged a few sizes. This will serve to somewhat counteract the perceived back pressure and may reduce the urge to push harder...
HTH
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arthurtwoshedsjackson Veteran Member
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nowave Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 453 Location: brooklyn
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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The Bremner mutes are great, and the new Stomvi UpMute is also excellent. Both of these are less resistant and more in-tune than any others I’ve tried. |
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Divitt Trumpets Heavyweight Member
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JWG Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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For an alternative to the Bremmer, you might try the Tom Crown Practice Mute. I really like mine, especially due to the fact that, if you find the mute too restrictive for your air flow rate, just enlarge one or more of the breather holes at the bottom by one drill bit size to balance your air flow between the mouthpiece throat and the mute's breather holes. Very little effect on intonation and you can play loudly on it without bothering your neighbors or house members. If you need extreme silence, just throw an old handkerchief or light rag into the mute to further muffle the sound.
http://www.tomcrownmutes.com/mutes_practice.html _________________ Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb and C with 1.5 TCC, XT, C, C-O, O, & L mouthpieces
Bach 183S (undersprung valves & straight taper pipe) with 1.5 Flip Oakes XF |
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ProAm Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I like the Trumcor Lyric Stealth but I haven’t tried most of those mentioned here. |
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Bryant Jordan Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 410 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have the Yamaha silent brass, but the $17 Pampet mute off Amazon plays almost as well. More free blowing than the silent brass, quiet enough, and a LOT cheaper. |
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2310 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:36 am Post subject: |
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The Yamaha Silent Brass is a wonderful practice aid - pircey but well worth it if you willl be using it a lot. With headphones on, you're less likely to overblow in an effort to hear yourself. You will back off and not push against it, more akin to mute-less play. Plus it's versatile with the line in feature - duets, play-alongs....
EazyBucket's (theeazybucket.com) "Silencer" is one of my favorites. I think it's length helps limit how much pitch gets messed up. Very quiet. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
Adjunct Professor
Bach Trumpet Endorsing Artist
Retired Air Force Bandsman |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Far be it for me to say that other's experiences are other than they say they were, so . . .
I've, personally, done quite a bit of playing different practice mutes. I have lived in facilities inhabited by older (harrumph) people who have zero tolerance for sound intruding into their space (as if they, alone, own that space). Nevertheless, sound suppression has been my primary concern, even at the cost of intonation and resistance.
Having said that, I go between the Yamaha Silent Mute -and I agree with zaferis, it's more costly but is very versatile and very silent. Sometimes I go back and forth with a Best Brass.
Some mutes are quiet but are brassy and their high frequencies carry. Some others are outstanding regarding intonation and resistance but are louder. But I've found the best of all worlds in the Yamaha (Best Brass coming in a close second).
You may find the following chart of acoustic parameters to practice mutes, helpful. https://everythingtrumpet.com/practice-mute-comparison-survey-by-bill-dishman _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Getzen Capri Cornet
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arthurtwoshedsjackson Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I play practice muted 99.9% of the time due to hearing damage and have found mute suitability (i.e., noise reduction that I perceive and intonation*) to be very horn-dependent. What works well in one horn may not in another. I now switch between the Wallace Studio and Best Brass aluminum, depending on the horn. I gave my Bremner Practice, Pampet and some others away. Silent Brass is one of the few I haven’t tried.
That said, the Bremner Practice would be my choice in the $50 realm.
*I don’t force the horn (or myself) to play at A440. I figure out the ‘A’ at which the horn is in best tune with itself and just play at that standard. (The Korg OT-120 tuner is a wonderful thing.) Since I only play alone, it really doesn’t matter. My Wessex cornet plays in very good tune, Wallace-muted, at A452. Things get squirrelly with the Best Brass, but that’s a better fit for my soprano trombone and bugle. It only takes a minute for my brain to adjust to another standard that works best with a different horn/mute combo. |
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deleted_user_687c31b New Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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If you already own a harmon mute, playing it with the stem removed also lowers the dB level. Or a cup mute with the rim against the bell. |
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ackmondual Regular Member
Joined: 10 Jan 2018 Posts: 16 Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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I currently do not have any trumpet mutes, so those "add-ons" won't work.
I ended up ordering the Bremmer SSSSHH practice mute.
Thanks everyone for posting! |
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arthurtwoshedsjackson Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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ackmondual wrote: | I currently do not have any trumpet mutes, so those "add-ons" won't work.
I ended up ordering the Bremmer SSSSHH practice mute.
Thanks everyone for posting! |
Good pick. Have fun with it! |
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JVL Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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hello
in case you'd not like the bremner, i suggest strongly the wallace studio practice mute
best |
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RNOtrmptr Regular Member
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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It seems like the Yamaha comes with an earbud-type headset. Knowing nothing about electronics, impedances, etc., could I use an over-the-ear set of headphones instead? That's providing I can find headphones that still have a corded connection! _________________ "Jazz is music of the unexpected." -- Hal Posey, my former instructor years ago and trumpeter with Charlie Byrd. |
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Bryant Jordan Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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I use headphones with my Yamaha Silent Brass. As long as it has an aux cord, it will work with the system. |
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RNOtrmptr Regular Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, sir! _________________ "Jazz is music of the unexpected." -- Hal Posey, my former instructor years ago and trumpeter with Charlie Byrd. |
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