Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1887 Location: San Diego, CA
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:58 pm Post subject:
Clark Terry. Red Rodney. Maurice Andre. Louis Armstrong. _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
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Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Posts: 2450 Location: New York City
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:50 pm Post subject:
lakejw wrote:
Maybe you should listen more.
You are correct, of course, and lord knows what sort of evil mood I was in when I wrote that last post. It certainly does not reflect well upon me, and is in poor service to the trumpet playing community as a whole. I'm ashamed to have written it! Hopefully the rest of my record on this site serves as testimony that I generally try to keep it positive around here.
Also, I've very much enjoyed your own playing the handful of times I've been fortunate to hear you.
We all have bad days - my last post is evidence of some pretty selfish thinking there, and was totally unnecessary. I'll do better going forward.
Joined: 22 May 2020 Posts: 625 Location: Here and there
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:40 am Post subject:
3bflat wrote:
Don Ellis and not just because of the odd meters
The quarter-tone trumpet playing over western music is a pretty big tell. The only other quarter-tone players in my limited knowledge base use it to engage in 24-note Middle Eastern scales & music, like Amir ElSaffar, Itamar Borochov, and Ibrahim Maalouf (all of whom I heartily recommend listening to). _________________ 1932 King Silvertone cornet
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The quarter-tone trumpet playing over western music is a pretty big tell. The only other quarter-tone players in my limited knowledge base use it to engage in 24-note Middle Eastern scales & music, like Amir ElSaffar, Itamar Borochov, and Ibrahim Maalouf (all of whom I heartily recommend listening to).
I don't know, I hear young players use quarter tones and all sorts of unusual tunings all the time.
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1887 Location: San Diego, CA
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:21 am Post subject:
JoseLindE4 wrote:
Subtropical and Subpar wrote:
3bflat wrote:
Don Ellis and not just because of the odd meters
The quarter-tone trumpet playing over western music is a pretty big tell. The only other quarter-tone players in my limited knowledge base use it to engage in 24-note Middle Eastern scales & music, like Amir ElSaffar, Itamar Borochov, and Ibrahim Maalouf (all of whom I heartily recommend listening to).
I don't know, I hear young players use quarter tones and all sorts of unusual tunings all the time.
Yeah, but we're talking about intentional quarter-tones. _________________ BKA! Mic Gillette was my mentor and friend.
Marcinkiewicz Mic G. trumpet, Custom Marcinkiewicz mpc. (Among others)
Marcinkiewicz Rembrandt flugel, Benge 8Z cornet, King 2B, Bach 36, Benge 190, Getzen 3062... many more. All Marc. mouthpieces.
Joined: 22 May 2020 Posts: 625 Location: Here and there
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:24 am Post subject:
JoseLindE4 wrote:
Subtropical and Subpar wrote:
3bflat wrote:
Don Ellis and not just because of the odd meters
The quarter-tone trumpet playing over western music is a pretty big tell. The only other quarter-tone players in my limited knowledge base use it to engage in 24-note Middle Eastern scales & music, like Amir ElSaffar, Itamar Borochov, and Ibrahim Maalouf (all of whom I heartily recommend listening to).
I don't know, I hear young players use quarter tones and all sorts of unusual tunings all the time.
This also describes me when I attempt piccolo. _________________ 1932 King Silvertone cornet
1936 King Liberty No. 2 trumpet
1958 Reynolds Contempora 44-M "Renascence" C
1962 Reynolds Argenta LB trumpet
1965 Conn 38A
1995 Bach LR18072
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2011 Schilke P5-4 B/G
2021 Manchester Brass flugel
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2642 Location: vista ca
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:33 am Post subject:
here are some players that have very recognizable sounds, and not many other players sound like them, for whatever reason...
Clark terry
Tomas Stanko
miles davis
chet baker, especially mature chet baker from the 80's
maynard
Harry james (at one time he had many immitators)
Dizzy gillespie
kenny wheeler
lester Bowie
Herp alpert (cant deny that)
Cootie williams
Timofei Dokshitzer
Horst Fischer
more of course but i'm out of time and interest:)
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Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Clarksville, Tn
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:47 pm Post subject:
A.N.A.Mendez wrote:
Bit off topic
Can you recommend one Clark Terry to get to know him ....
I only own 2 Clark Terry albums. I like his playing a lot and have started transcribing one of his. I own Duke With A Difference and Clark After Dark. I like them both, but I prefer Duke With A difference.
I really need to purchase more of his stuff. Sorry I am not more knowlegible. _________________ Music is a fire in your belly, fighting to get out. You'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt.
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Clarksville, Tn
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:20 pm Post subject:
Jim Manley.
Jim is not an all time great like Dizzy or Doc or Woody, although his is a fine player in his own right. When he plays jazz hear a lot of other player's influence in him. Maynard, Chase, Don Ellis, Freddie. But when he plays funk his sound is unmistakeable. Jim doesn't just play funk. Jim is funky to the bone. _________________ Music is a fire in your belly, fighting to get out. You'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt.
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 543 Location: Brooklyn, New York
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:32 pm Post subject:
Turkle wrote:
lakejw wrote:
Maybe you should listen more.
You are correct, of course, and lord knows what sort of evil mood I was in when I wrote that last post. It certainly does not reflect well upon me, and is in poor service to the trumpet playing community as a whole. I'm ashamed to have written it! Hopefully the rest of my record on this site serves as testimony that I generally try to keep it positive around here.
Also, I've very much enjoyed your own playing the handful of times I've been fortunate to hear you.
We all have bad days - my last post is evidence of some pretty selfish thinking there, and was totally unnecessary. I'll do better going forward.
Can you recommend one Clark Terry to get to know him ....
I only own 2 Clark Terry albums. I like his playing a lot and have started transcribing one of his. I own Duke With A Difference and Clark After Dark. I like them both, but I prefer Duke With A difference.
I really need to purchase more of his stuff. Sorry I am not more knowlegible.
Thank you. I heard something of his on my local jazz station and was gobsmacked...... _________________ "There is no necessity for deadly strife" A. Lincoln 1860
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Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 5677 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Unmistakable sounds
loweredsixth wrote:
What players can you identify immediately by their sounds (tone, inflection, and even melodic phrases)?
I was just thinking about how crazy it is that many people can identify Clark Terry from just one note! I’ve never really heard anyone sound like him (aside from people doing an impression).
Who else has an unmistakable sound?
Well....
Maynard Ferguson
Doc Severinesen
Maurice Andre
Wynton Marsalis (classical)
Sergei Nakariakov
James Morrison
Boots Randolph (Sax)
Stevie Ray Vaughan (guitar)
Hal Blaine (drums)
Jonn JR Robinson (drums)
Lonnie Wilson (drums)
Carol Kaye (Bass)
etc.
I mean, it's one of those things where if you've listened enough, you just get to where you can identify their sound/feel, even if it's on a recording you don't know.
I can't tell you the number of times I've been listening to an old pop recording and been like, "that sounds like Hal Blaine on drums," then when I look it up I'm right. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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Louis A
Bunny B
Harry J
Ziggy E
Maynard F
Dizzy G
Maurice A (!)
Oh and I forgot Muggsy Spanier.....first EP I bought....and mm55 refreshed my memory - Herb Alpert - of course
In all this probably reflects my age.......
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