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thesplitmeister
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:43 am    Post subject: Simple home recording for a simple brain Reply with quote

Happy New Year THers.
Since Covid hit like many of you I’ve done a number of home recording projects for friends with mixed results. My go to option is just to record using my iPhone 6 as far away as possible to reduce that glare in the sound. I own an old Zoom H2 but haven’t found a simple enough way to sync it up with my iPhone or iPad and I no longer have a lap top for the SD card to slot in so even if I got a good take I have no way of working with that from there.
So my question is, using an iPhone or iPad as the starting point what software/mikes would you suggest to get the best bang for my buck? I’m no tech Wizz at all, and have no delusions of grandeur in doing big projects from
home but recording short tracks to send on, listen back for my own self analysis and maybe record something the size/volume of a brass quintet at a distance is what I’d love to play with. Is there anything that jumps to mind?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just started recording directly into my iPad. Garage Band is the software that I use on the iPad.

I run an audio interface via USB into the Apple "Camera Adaptor", an XLR cable from a microphone connects to the audio interface.

I'm finding it massively easier than recording on a Zoom and then transferring to my home PC.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've recorded some with Garage Band that worked out well enough for simple things. But the best luck I've had is using Audacity (a free app for PCs). My wife bought a cheap USB mic that works well enough though I'll probably upgrade when I get a chance. There's a learning curve here but it's not too bad. Ultimately I feel like I have much more control with the PC solution over the iOS one.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be able to get an adapter for your H2 to your phone. That would eliminate the poor audio but still allow you to use your phone camera.

I use my H2n with my Windows computer and Audacity. You could try that too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simplest I've found has been bandlab.com.

It is all online. Very simple interface and control panel. In a world of very confusing, for me, DAWS that ask me to learn complicated software, the bandlab allows me to record and evaluate my playing.

I do have a Yamaha interface, headphones and a Shure mic, but really that program just makes it simple to make the recording and hear what I'm doing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard III wrote:
Simplest I've found has been bandlab.com.


Do you use this from a phone or a tablet?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Zoom Q2n video recorder. It is KISS simple to use and the mics are good quality. I have a couple of USB SD card readers . they are cheap
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Kennedy wrote:
I have a Zoom Q2n video recorder. It is KISS simple to use and the mics are good quality. I have a couple of USB SD card readers . they are cheap

I have looked at these. (I have an H2n, which I believe has the same XY mics on one side). However, when I record on the H2n, I like to offset it a bit.
Do you play straight at the Q2n?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgaiii wrote:
Richard III wrote:
Simplest I've found has been bandlab.com.


Do you use this from a phone or a tablet?


Works from an iPad, Chromebook or Windows PC. Any way you can access the site works. At least for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When shopping for a USB microphone make sure that you get one intended for music. One that is just for speech and Zoom meetings probably cuts off at 8 kHz. You want 20 kHz response and a 44.1kHz or 48 kHz sample rate. The "Samson Meteor Mic USB Studio Condenser Microphone" on Amazon looks good
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noodly wrote:
When shopping for a USB microphone make sure that you get one intended for music. One that is just for speech and Zoom meetings probably cuts off at 8 kHz. You want 20 kHz response and a 44.1kHz or 48 kHz sample rate. The "Samson Meteor Mic USB Studio Condenser Microphone" on Amazon looks good


I can't speak for the Samson Mic, but my daughter has used a Blue Yeti USB Microphone to do some musical vocal recording for demos, and it worked very well. The Yeti has gain control, mute, and latency free headphone output...and you can even choose the pickup pattern of the mic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your phone is going to have an auto gain when you use the built in voice memo. If you put it really far away, it will just increase the gain and you'll get a lot of room noise. However, it doesn't work well with instruments because it doesn't decrease the gain enough to deal with super loud instruments.

If you're going to record with your phone, try using the apps Spire or Shure Motiv. Both of them take levels in order to set the gain to prevent distortion. I use them with my students all the time and they work fantastic.
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