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Proteus
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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:24 pm Post subject: Flugel mouthpiece for a cornet? |
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Can a standard (non-Bach) flugel mouthpiece be used for a cornet? Are there gap issues? Downsides?
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TKSop
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Not really no..
It won't insert properly and you get the effects of a very poor "gap" (even if it's a gapless receiver).
I do know a chap that plays a Wick flugel piece on third cornet, but that has the shank turned down. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| If you take the flugelhorn mouthpiece top and make it threaded onto a Warburton cornet backbore / shank, it might work. |
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Richard III
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I had Mark Curry make me one. It was a deep flugel mouthpiece with a vintage Conn cornet shank. Sound was just okay but the intonation was not good.
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| The earlier Olds cornets had a flugel-sized receiver if I'm not mistaken. The basic geometry of the mouthpieces is relatively similar (the throat size is larger I think?), so I reckon you could make it work...as long as it fits the receiver. |
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| hibidogrulez wrote: | | The earlier Olds cornets had a flugel-sized receiver if I'm not mistaken. The basic geometry of the mouthpieces is relatively similar (the throat size is larger I think?), so I reckon you could make it work...as long as it fits the receiver. |
Exactly, old Olds cornets works great with Yamaha flugelhorn mpcs.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| giakara wrote: | | hibidogrulez wrote: | | The earlier Olds cornets had a flugel-sized receiver if I'm not mistaken. The basic geometry of the mouthpieces is relatively similar (the throat size is larger I think?), so I reckon you could make it work...as long as it fits the receiver. |
Exactly, old Olds cornets works great with Yamaha flugelhorn mpcs.
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Bach flugelhorn mouthpieces fit them better.
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I had a Martin Custom Flugelhorn, the one that looks (and plays) more like a Bb mellophone (IMHO) and its receiver was strictly a cornet receiver. I had a Martin #1 cornet piece that was pretty close to a flug piece, I guess really a deep funnel shape, that worked on it, and I also had a few REALLY DEEP Denis Wick cornet mouthpieces for British Brass Band playing, cornet shank, that really made it sound like a flugelhorn. I am looking at one now, a Wick 2 (no letter). It does have the short British cornet shank, but I have played it in my Bach 184 and Olds British Brass Band version of the Ambassador. Very dark. Also, try the Yamaha short shank cornet mouthpieces. i use the 16E occasionally. Very flugelhorn-ish. You can get those in smaller rim sizes, all the way down to a 6E. The traditional British cornet pieces do have a falrly large orifice. My Endsley mouthpiece gauge largest size is a number 14 drill, and it is VERY loose in the Wick mouthpiece. The large orifice, IMHO, may make problems in intonation, on some horns.
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