Quintuple Case?

Bryant Jordan · Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:17 pm Post subject: Quintuple Case?

Hi!

There's a video of Jens Lindemann converting his Gard Triple case into a quintuple case using taco inserts and a specific placement method.

How safe is this for the horns? Has anyone tried it? If it works great, I'm sold.

Cheers

benlewis · Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:15 pm Post subject:

I haven't tried it with the Gard, but I ordered a few "tacos' from Trent Austin and set my Bonna quad case up alá Jens' video; I would feel comfortable carrying as normal around town. I certainly would not check it like that, but for daily transport, I feel it's pretty safe...

IMHO...

Ben

LittleRusty · Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:27 pm Post subject:

I am not sure I would pack that many expensive instruments into a single case. Just because on the off chance the case gets pushed off the stage there are now five instruments that will be damaged instead of one.

But there is really no chance of me doing it since I am not proficient on the smaller instruments so I won't be carrying it to a a gig.

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1284

I bought a leather GARD triple case in summer 2017 from Josh Landress. Great case. One of the best investments ever. Jens came out with that video in May 2019...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u693q3KCovU

...but I didn't see it until June 2020, so my do-it-yo'selfer self decided to take some supplies I already had and have my own taco inserts made...in a nice dark blue velvet! Yum!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0jwyhbyyf9n3ygk/AAAbEQ18-8fA81CGEw44bWUFa?dl=0

I can tell you that mine cost more than the GARD versions. Nicer, yes, but would I do this project over, again, with batting, Velcro, and velvet? Probably. Do I even use these inserts, or see myself using them? I fit all that Jens did in his: flugel, Bb, C, Eb, picc...but it didn't make me feel comfortable, and since I have so many cases, it would be a rare situation for me to stuff five horns in this one case...I mean, really rare...so rare that I really can't think of a scenario. But I know I'm ready for when that time comes! Ha! Using them for three horns and mutes seems more likely.

And you ask, "Where's the case?!" Well, that, my friends, is presently in Louisville, KY, with two horns I sent off to have lacquered! Yes, I love using this case to ship horns with each horn individually bubblewrapped, then I put the case in a couple of clean plastic trash bags, then bubblewrap on the outside of the case, then packing popcorn surrounding the case/bag. The case is light, but very sturdy, so it makes an excellent layer of protection for shipping...if you have spare cases lying around and don't mind parting with this one for awhile (and I'm not the only one in this situation!).

spitvalve · Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:24 pm Post subject:

Jens may be one of a handful of trumpet players on the planet who have to take five horns to a gig. More than two is rare for most of us. Nonetheless I've watched that video several times and if I ever want to fly somewhere and take all five of my horns (it'll never happen) with me I know what to do.
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jrd19580 · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:45 am Post subject:

Do you think you could do the same thing with a pro-tech triple IPAC case? Adding the tacos from Gard
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benlewis · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:48 am Post subject:

Actually, for some quintet gigs, five is kind of normal...

Ben

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pitchlevel · Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:23 pm Post subject:

I had to fly with 5 horns twice last year. B flat, C, flugel, rotary and picc. After watching the Jens video I tried getting them all in a protec triple hard wheelie case. They fit but I wasn’t convinced. I ended up putting the bflat, c and picc into an MB double using Jens principles and the rotary and flugel in an old reunion blues soft leather double. In both cases I had to lay horns flat and be stacked rather than side by side.

I combined all kinds of padding that I had from many cases and finally settled on a layout. Both itineraries called for 3 flights ranging from small commuter plane to a 737 to a 777. On the small plane I had the MB In The overhead and the soft case on the floor under the seat in front of me between my feet. On the 737 and 777 I was able to put both in the overhead.

No damage whatsoever to any instruments, not even a scratch. And if I had the spare cash I would’ve just bought the Jens case and tacos and done that.

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jrd19580 · Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:05 am Post subject:

trumpetjens · Veteran Member Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 241

Since I felt my name being bandied about in the ether, thought I would jump in. Yes, that quintuple video is legit and it is AWESOME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u693q3KCovU

To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised that 5 horns worked at all (too much tetris in my youth!) but now I am 100% confident that NO damage can occur unless you (or I) simply do something dumb like drop the case.

If you do buy that case, practice a very simple safety move that becomes second nature when picking it. Run the strap through your fingers and glance down to make sure that it is NOT twisted before picking it up from any surface. A very simple maneuver that becomes absolute second nature after even brief practice. That way there is no added torque which could potentially stress the end of the straps where they attach to the case itself.

Enjoy...

Jens Lindemann
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Dale Proctor · Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:10 pm Post subject:

I used to have a quad case, and if I put 4 horns in it, it was heavy to the point of being unwieldy. The handle eventually gave out and had to be replaced. I can’t imagine carrying 5 horns in a case. I now have a Protec triple case and generally carry just 2 horns, and all my other junk in the 3rd slot.
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LittleRusty · Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:11 pm Post subject:

I once visited a local shop and the repairman was working on a pic that had extensive damage. It turned out that, despite all of his experience seeing the damage on the horns brought to him, he did "something dumb" and left his case behind his car and then backed over it. It was his personal instrument.

I will never be at the level Jens is at, and certainly intend no disrespect, but I personally cannot guarantee I won't end up doing something stupid and regretting it.

Fortunately for someone at my level I will never need to carry five horns.

cheiden · Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:18 pm Post subject:

trumpetjens · Veteran Member Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 241

Hahaha...as with large mouthpieces, 'just because you CAN play one does not mean you SHOULD play one'. So too with a triple case that can fit five horns. I obviously did that to show the extreme possibilities that very few trumpeters would ever have to deal with...actually needing five horns on a gig!

That being said, think of all those nooks and crannies that can be utilized in the Gard case for other stuff if you are really bringing only 2 or 3 instruments with you.

Jens Lindemann
www.trumpetsolo.com

Bflatman · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Nov 2016 Posts: 720

Hi trumpetjens.

I understand your demonstrating instrument storage possibilities and very helpful too but you have helped me in ways you could not foresee.

You have opened my eyes to the possibility of using a triple case to carry two instruments and several tacos to keep me sustained on those long journeys when the macdonalds is unavailable.

I will be forever in your debt for this revelation.

Never again shall my lower range be interrupted by cries from an empty stomach and the only growls heard will be those intended by me.

No longer will the bell on my instrument have to serve as temporary storage for a mixed assortment of hot dog sausages.

Your guidance in all matters trumpet is always welcome and I respect you even more now.

yours, pathetically grateful from england.
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