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Wendy DeWitt
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:58 am    Post subject: Lip Balms Reply with quote

I’m new to the forum. This topic is relevant to me as I might be starting to do some more shows this fall. However, I recall in the Spring, after playing a week of intense rehearsals and 4 shows on the weekend, I found my chops turning real red and starting to crack… I mean, noticeably red like I was wearing lipstick on all of my chops. Never had that before. I realized I wasn’t keeping moisturizer going. I guess as you get older new things pop up when playing. Has anyone used Robinson’s remedies?

I would love feedback on any types of lip remedies, such as Blistex, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use an inexpensive 'chap stick type' balm every night before sleep. Just plain 'grease' - no camphor, etc. Dry lips are most common during cold weather heating season with dry indoor air.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapstick Blue for me, has aloe vera and sunscreen, and does not seem to "gum up" my lips as badly as some of the other remedies.

Very personal choice.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Robinson's remedies. Lip Renew and Lip Renew Recovery.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chopsaver was developed for this. I cannot recommend it as I haven’t personally used the product, but it seemed to get good reviews on here.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Blistex DCT (Daily Conditioning Treatment), which comes in a tan tub. Some of the stick/tube varieties such as Chapstick are too waxy for me. After especially brutal nights, I use vitamin E oil. My lips always feel better the next day.

Blistex Medex, in a blue tub, is also good, but you wouldn't want to use this on the job as it contains the analgesics camphor and menthol.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I need it I'm a chopsaver guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most Lip Balms are a trap.

I've played as intense playing schedules as almost anyone on this forum at times and - unless it was winter and the entire week was below zero - I've never needed lip balm as a remedy for just playing my horn.

That said, several of the ones mentioned - Chopsaver, for example - aren't terrible for you or your lips. I generally use Burt's Bees, myself, but that's because I use it maybe a half dozen to a dozen times over the course of several years.

Chapstick is best put in the trash, not on your face or lips. Blistex is no better. It's all chemical crap that's not making your lips better, it's making them need more chemical crap.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blistex Deep Renewal, here. Don't overdo these lip balms, they can become addictive.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopSaver.
all natural, has a natural anti-inflammatory property, and the orange one has some sun protective quality

I"m never without one
https://www.chopsaver.com
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jcheze wrote:
I like Robinson's remedies. Lip Renew and Lip Renew Recovery.


+1 on the Robinson's Lip Renew Recovery Stick.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years I've tried all kinds of stuff - for me Blistex in a squeeze tube has always been my go-to. It penetrates and heals faster than just about anything else I've ever tried, and I've tried Chops Saver, which I didn't particularly care for. Blistex in a tube is still my favorite, and I stumbled into it clear back in high school at band camp one year where my lips were incredibly chapped, and I had gotten that irritated red-ring all around my mouth from licking at them. I started using it around day 2 or 3, and they were completely healed up by the end of the week.

Blistex in a tube - give it a shot. If your chops are really beat up, t'll take a few days, but only a few days. I swear by it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregplo wrote:
jcheze wrote:
I like Robinson's remedies. Lip Renew and Lip Renew Recovery.


+1 on the Robinson's Lip Renew Recovery Stick.


+1 to the +1.😎

Seriously, I’ve used Carmex, Vaseline, Chop Saver, Chapstick, Burt’s Bees…..for me Robinson is by far the best I’ve used. It’s not cheap, but it’s also worth it.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCT is my favorite. I was told that Carmex works too but shouldn't be used too often.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Avoid menthol, camphor, and phenol as ingredients in lip balms because they can dry out the lips."

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have been using Robinson's since my instructor told me about it. Great stuff. Chopsaver and Chapstick don't compare.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaferis wrote:
"Avoid menthol, camphor, and phenol as ingredients in lip balms because they can dry out the lips."

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Many years ago I used lips balms because my lips were chapped and they never got better. I stopped using balms completely, my lips healed, and I've never needed them since.

YMMV
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oxleyk wrote:
zaferis wrote:
"Avoid menthol, camphor, and phenol as ingredients in lip balms because they can dry out the lips."

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Many years ago I used lips balms because my lips were chapped and they never got better. I stopped using balms completely, my lips healed, and I've never needed them since.

YMMV

Interesting thread. I'll echo the above.

I agree with zaferis, that some lip balms are "medicated" with menthol, camphor, phenol, salicylates, etc., which act as astringents, and will dry out your skin. Other lip balms have so-called "natural" or "herbal" ingredients, that are mostly worthless and are also potential irritants.

Lip balm overuse can lead to a paradoxical drying out of your lips, as the natural processes in your skin become altered due to lip balm overuse. Something that maybe oxleyk experienced.

The main benefit a lip balm is to use it as an emollient or a sun screen. Everything else is probably not all that helpful. All things being equal, find a balm with fewer ingredients. And for some people, there may be diminishing returns with lip balm overuse.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dermatone. Duke Cannon Cannon lip balm. Robinson's. Chopsaver. Aquaphor.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never needed lip balm until I moved from Mississippi to Utah, where it's so dry that I couldn't function without it. Been in Texas now for 36 years and I've never gotten over my addiction--I use it several times during the day and after every practice session. I used Blistick for many years; recently I've just been using the stuff my dental hygienist puts in my swag bag after every visit. It's called Chap-Ice. It has vitamin E in it and seems to work fine. I've got a few sticks of it stockpiled around the house--in my desk, in the bathroom, and always one in my pocket.
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