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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:27 am    Post subject: Bell Swap Question Reply with quote

I have a cornet with a trashed bell. The back bow is fine but the bell rim is heavily damaged.

I found a parts horn with a bell that should fit. The bell rim is fine but the back bow is in bad shape.

So here's the question: can a talented tech cut the trashed bell off somewhere before the first brace and replace it with the good bell from the parts horn?

Or is would it be better to have the back bow on the parts horn repaired and then have the two bells swapped.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel this is really something you should ask the tech you plan to ask to work on your instrument(s).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly will but it's 5 AM and I thought I'd take a break from Clarke and get some insights from TH members who may be up and about.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. A screw bell conversion could be done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNKrd9q7H2k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOuz8kTTCj0

If you didn't want it removable then the tricky part would be making a joining ferrule. But yes, it could be done - something like the Getzen 90 Delux trumpet or Super Delux cornet?

Probably - with the damaged back bow. This is something most techs could do a good job with.

Is your bell worse than this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DJfsCXyP10

What kind of cornet is it?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would tend to favor swapping the entire bell, as they generally have only one or two braces that would be supporting it from the valve section. The ferrule "joining" the two pieces would be sizable, if its going to do the job.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes sense, Lionel. Thanks!
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