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TheAidanAU
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 10:39 am    Post subject: How to make trumpet scream? Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

I am wondering how to make my trumpet scream. I have tried looking online, but most things that I have found do not really say how to.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back about 1974 I was at Texas Bandmasters conference trying out piccolo trumpets at the horn display and was caught off guard when Cat Anderson walked up behind me and we struck up a conversation about high range playing. Cat was there to perform with the Air Force Band, and he was AMAZING to hear live.

His advice seemed to focus on the necessity of keeping his backside puckered up as tight and waterproof as a "frog's a**". He regaled me with a lot of stories about how the internal pressures seemed to be hard on his underwear.

I do often remember that playing Eb and pic with our brass band. Not sure if that meets your definition of "screaming", but Cat was the best I ever experienced.

Just sayin'!
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell your trumpet it sounds worse than a Bundy - should be plenty of screams
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a teacher who knows how. Hang out with trumpeters who can. Some know how they do it, some just naturally do it. You can learn a lot by watching and listening.

And lots of practice. Flexibilities and long tones are the best chop builders. It won't happen overnight.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make it listen to Kenny G.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitvalve wrote:
Find a teacher who knows how. Hang out with trumpeters who can. Some know how they do it, some just naturally do it. You can learn a lot by watching and listening.

And lots of practice. Flexibilities and long tones are the best chop builders. It won't happen overnight.


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Rod Haney
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make a trumpet scream a high g with almost no effort or practice - pay no attention to anyone else on this forum👹 here’s how.


Find a dog squeaky toy, and pull the squeaker out of the air “bag. Place the removed squeaker into the third valve slide ( caution —- make sure it fits tight and won’t enter bends, most fit, but check ) . Insert slide into horn. Play whartever you want avoiding third valve. Rare back like Maynard and play a note with the third valve. Instant immense high g really loud. You and you friends will be amazed.

That’s the only way other than finding good accurate info by a teacher or however you can , and lots of practice.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still go with the advice I gave you before in another thread...do the pencil exercise twice a day and work toward over 1 minute hold and up to 3 minutes. At that point you are plenty strong in the lips.

Practice lip buzzing with a lot of roll-in. You may have to roll in the bottom lip more than the top or vice versa. Keep buzzing melodies and scales and trying to make a high squeak and then play with that until you can buzz melodies up there and slur up to and down from that squeak.

Take your mpc and trumpet and put it on your lips while buzzing the squeak. See if you can get the buzz and then the squeak to continue and come out of your horn. Learn your preferred pivot, whether it is up to ascend or down to descend. Move the horn around on your lips while buzzing to get the best sound and see whether your angle needs to be a little to the left or right to get the best blow. Do you go up to the left or right or down to the left or right to ascend? Answer these questions to find your preferred embouchure track.

I hope this works for you. You do have to persist with it for a while, it takes a few weeks or maybe months to get it all right.

So do get an embouchure consult or two with a chop doc if you can and, if not, try the above. There is no immediate way to get this done...it does take some practice to get it right. Asking more questions in search of the magic answer will not do it, the practice will.
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really hone in to a specific sound you want to emulate and practice along with the recording.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE8UpvvNiJI
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2021 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn’t locate the video, but that’s where I first saw it.like I said very easy to do👹
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