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Dave CCM/SSO
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:35 pm    Post subject: Schilke Symphony Mouthpieces Reply with quote

Hello Trumpet World!

During the pandemic, I've decided to go on a bit of a mouthpiece safari to see if I could learn a little bit more about what's out there. At first, I was looking for something a little more efficient because I currently have 2 toddlers at home, and practice time is limited. I spent years playing 1C size stuff, and ended up settling on the Bach 2C for awhile. I like it quite a bit.

As I continued being bored without gigs to play during the pandemic, I tried several other things. I recently tried the Schilke Symphony mouthpieces, and I'm liking them a lot. They have a wonderful sound, and the rim is very comfortable. To me it feels like a "symphonic style" rim like the Parke or Laskey, but with a little less bite and better flexibility. I know that Karl Hammond was instrumental in the creation of this line, and I think he did some excellent work.

I have played Hammond's own mouthpieces off and on over the years, but always ended up moving on because I never found anything in his line that I liked on Bb trumpet. The ML, MLX, and L were great on C for me, but seemed too open for Bb. I never cared for the sound of his MB mouthpiece for regular use.

I think one of the reasons the Schilke symphony works so well for me is because they have the "MC" offering in each size that come standard with a 27 throat and Schilke "C" backbore, a very nice combination on Bb in my opinion.

Anyway, I'm digging them for now. I'd love to hear some thoughts from anyone with experience using this line. I have the M2 mouthpeice, but might be interested in the M3 as well. Does the M3 feel similar in diameter to a bach 3C or 1.5C? I know the Schilke literature says it's similar to a 3C, but many of the comparison charts available online have them lining up more closely to a 1.5C.

Send me your thoughts!

Thanks!

Dave
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can chime in. I used to have an M2* and switched it out for an M150* for it's slightly wider cup.

Unfortunately, the issue with comparison charts is there is no industry standard on where to measure mouthpieces and often the charts are compiled using the various manufacturers' own measurements.

This can result in two mouthpieces that "measure the same" but each is measured in a different location. For example, Parke sizes are designated by a measurement .1" down from the rim plane, while Marcinkiewicz are measured closer to the bite. If you take a Parke 640 and then compare it to a Marc that is said to be similar in diameter, they will actually be wildly different simply because the Parke is being measured further down the slope into the cup. Factor in different alpha angles and it becomes a real mess.

I personally don't believe any chart that says a Schilke M3 is similar to a 1.5C. I have five Bach 1.5Cs in my collection (of various vintages) and, while they are all a bit different, all of them more closely approximate an M150 in diameter with a couple slightly narrower examples approaching an M2.
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