Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:55 pm Post subject: Great results from long-tones
This might seem like the most obvious title ever posted on this forum, but as someone who has recently been disappointed and discouraged by my own playing, playing long-tones daily has revitalized my excitement in the instrument.
BACKSTORY: I have been playing the trumpet seriously for 10 years and am currently playing semi-professionally, but ever since the onset of the pandemic, I have not had the horn on my chops enough to stay in good playing shape. Before the pandemic, I was used to having 2+ hours of rehearsals nearly every day, so I rarely needed additional practice to keep my embouchure together. This summer, as my band starting playing gigs again, my nearly two years of poor practice quality had caught up with me. I was struggling to play to the level I was used to. More importantly, my old methods of "practice" (playing along to real-book backtracks, practicing licks, etc) were not improving my playing. Thus, I made the decision to actually invest in the fundamentals.
Only two weeks ago, I started doing daily long-tones, for 15-30 minutes at the beginning of my practice sessions. For this exercise, I followed Marcus Printup's technique discussed in this video: Link His routine is basically a set of 30 second long-tones starting on a middle C, which was easily doable for me. However, when I tried to do the same routine starting on a high G (top of the staff), I struggled heavily. The next day, I went back to the routine starting on middle C, and over the following days experimented with different starting points to make my chops feel like they were working hard without compromising good, efficient technique. Now after just two weeks of doing this routine daily, I am able to easily complete the exercise starting on a high G#, after not even being able to complete it on a G at the beginning. At this point, I'm trying to start a half-step higher every day.
Here are the improvements I've noticed since starting this long-tone routine:
1. Starting my routine in a consistent fashion makes my playing feels way more consistent day to day.
2. My playing AFTER doing the long tones is notably better. My sound is more resonant and I have better endurance.
3. I need to empty my spit a lot less frequently than I used to. This probably hints at becoming more efficient.
4. The consistency of my articulations at the beginning of the long-tones has dramatically improved. Accuracy in general has also improved.
5. My extreme high range is more consistent. While I could always play a double G (one octave above the staff) when my chops were fresh, now I can ALWAYS play a resonant double G even when my chops are tired. This probably has to do with air support and mouth shape.
6. Mental health benefits. This long-tone routine helps clear my mind. I think just sitting down and basically doing nothing but breathing for 30 minutes a day is a good peaceful exercise.
All of these results are after TWO WEEKS (!) of diligent practice with long tones. I'm sorry to all of the forum members whose advice I ignored throughout high school and college. The most important benefit is that I feel optimistic about being able to get back into good playing condition and that I feel excited to practice. So my advice: If you're someone who is feeling down on their playing, even if you'd consider yourself a serious player, give long-tones a serious chance. This doesn't feel like my failed attempts to get into other playing methods - I feel confident I will stick with long-tones, especially when my rehearsals are not giving me enough playing time to keep my chops in shape. _________________ Trumpet player in Couch
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:08 pm Post subject:
And when doing long-tones, you have the ability to
realize / examine / correct
your basic 'playing techniques' - embouchure, breathing, body position, etc.
With the goal of developing good habits so you just 'do it' in your other practice routines and playing. _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'.
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:57 pm Post subject:
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5. My extreme high range is more consistent. While I could always play a double G (one octave above the staff) when my chops were fresh, now I can ALWAYS play a resonant double G even when my chops are tired. This probably has to do with air support and mouth shape.
6. Mental health benefits. This long-tone routine helps clear my mind. I think just sitting down and basically doing nothing but breathing for 30 minutes a day is a good peaceful exercise.
I have about 3 weeks of this now. Ditto on everything you said. I spend my time focusing on my tone, the rest falls into place. _________________ Bach190ML43
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Great results from long-tones
Apologies for picking up on this seemingly mundane point but why does less spit probably hint at being more efficient?
It's not something I'd ever considered.
BTW - thanks for the post and video.
JeffTheHornGuy wrote:
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3. I need to empty my spit a lot less frequently than I used to. This probably hints at becoming more efficient.
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Great results from long-tones
Anthony Miller wrote:
Apologies for picking up on this seemingly mundane point but why does less spit probably hint at being more efficient?
This was something I meant to ask my teacher about the other day, and I forgot. I've noticed when I do exercises with a lot of articulating versus more slurring. I generate a lot more spit. Like enough to water the lawn. Since I'm terrible, I can believe the gpm out of the spit valves might have something to do with efficiency or maybe some other playing quality. _________________ -Ed
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:06 am Post subject:
JayKosta wrote:
And when doing long-tones, you have the ability to
realize / examine / correct
your basic 'playing techniques' - embouchure, breathing, body position, etc.
With the goal of developing good habits so you just 'do it' in your other practice routines and playing.
THIS! Not always WHAT we do but HOW we do it.. outsided guidance to identify, examine, and correct things will speed the realization/process. as self-diagnosis won't take you passed what you understand. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:17 am Post subject:
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When in your practice routine do you do this? After you're warmed up? As the warm-up. What? Thanks. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:40 am Post subject:
I do it while warming up. Primarily striving for good clean initial note sounding, and also for consecutive easy same-valve intervals. After accomplishing the easy range, I extend upwards a bit. Similar with various scales.
Sometimes it can take an entire session to be satisfied with the results! _________________ Most Important Note ? - the next one !
KNOW (see) what the next note is BEFORE you have to play it.
PLAY the next note 'on time' and 'in rhythm'.
Oh ya, watch the conductor - they set what is 'on time'.
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:27 am Post subject:
I agree that long tone work is an extremely beneficial way to begin your day regardless of what kind of music you play or what other materials you use.
Besides the classics mentioned by Printup I’ve benefited a great deal from “Special Studies for Trumpet” by John Daniel, an outstanding trumpet player and teacher who also has a terrific series of tutorials on You Tube.
Two things that help me with long tones are the Walter White Long-tone Accompaniments and the "expanding balloon" feature in the Tonal Energy tuning app.
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:30 am Post subject:
My afternoon practice sessions involve playing a series of ballads, along with some classical pieces and everyday I find warming up with a 5 minute exercise of long-tones prepares me for a good practice. My 86 year old chops aren't great everyday so using the long tones helps me smooth out.
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:17 am Post subject:
Color me completely unsurprised that long tones might be a way to improve one's playing. I don't say this sarcastically - I say it with complete sincerity.
The issue with long tones, or at least the issue I've always had with them, is that they are boring, so it's hard to be disciplined about doing them. When I have been, I've always had great results with them.
I remember a point in time when I was doing Latin band in the late 1990s. I was also stationed with the Old Guard Fife & Drum Corps at Fort Myer, VA, and I was put in charge of working with one of our buglers who was struggling a bit as a player - I was supposed to help improve his playing a bit.
One of the warmups we'd do was a long-tone routine, expanding by half steps both ascending and descending starting on 1st line G.
G
F#
G#
F
A
E
Bb
etc.
We'd end on top of staff G and low F#. The goal was to play them for a single breath as long as we could play them.
Inside of 2 weeks I was ON FIRE in the Latin band - sound, endurance, range...everything improved.
Long tones are the "secret" everyone knows about and almost no one has the discipline to stick with and do with regularity. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:26 am Post subject:
Patrick is absolutely correct. Long tones are boring.
When I was younger I didn't have the discipline to play long tones even though I knew they were good for me . But when you get my age you learn how to deal with boredom by concentrating on thinking about the rewards long tones have to offer.
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:33 am Post subject:
Some might find this helpful. Readers may want to skip down to get to the "meat" of it:
http://www.rustyrussell.com/1930s/1930sRev.pdf _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Drum/rhythm tracks make long tones much more interesting than ye olde metronome. Plenty of options on youtube...including Mid Tempo Stoner Rock at 80 bpm! _________________ --Matt--
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:05 am Post subject:
mafields627 wrote:
Drum/rhythm tracks make long tones much more interesting than ye olde metronome. Plenty of options on youtube...including Mid Tempo Stoner Rock at 80 bpm!
I pulled this up and started doing long tones and articulation exercises against it. It even works with Clarke #2. More to the point, there are a couple of different tempos out there.
It makes doing long tones MUCH more bearable when there's something catchy and groovy to play against. _________________ Patrick Gleason
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