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Mike7300
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:38 am    Post subject: Trumpet Suggestion? Reply with quote

Hello - I don’t really know much of anything about trumpets but I play in a rock band that needs some trumpet on a couple songs. What do you suggest I buy? It won’t get a ton of use but I’ll also need to perform with it in front of medium size crowds so I want it to at least sound decent. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Trumpet Suggestion? Reply with quote

Mike7300 wrote:
Hello - I don’t really know much of anything about trumpets but I play in a rock band that needs some trumpet on a couple songs. What do you suggest I buy? It won’t get a ton of use but I’ll also need to perform with it in front of medium size crowds so I want it to at least sound decent. Thanks!


Find a good used Bach TR-200 with a heavier bell. They have a tendency to have heavier bells on certain ones, and those horns light up. I gave mine to a student, and wish I had it back. The sound sticks together better in a rock band setting than some other, lighter horns that are great when recording, but can crack with extreme volumes and odd acoustics.

The other choice is a very old Getzen Severinsen Eterna. They work very well and can be had for a reasonable price. I've never loaned mine out and likely never will, because...see above!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are tons of Getzen 300 student trumpets on Ebay right now for $300 (talk about symmetry), and they are VASTLY better than what you will find on Amazon, etc. Additionally, the Getzen 300s are well suited to the sort of back-up horns sound typical in the application you are talking about. Though certainly not the equivalent of a pro horn at 8 times the cost, a Getzen 300 will do everything that is needed for what you are describing, and Getzen has always built "student" to a much higher level.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldSchoolEuph wrote:
There are tons of Getzen 300 student trumpets on Ebay right now for $300 (talk about symmetry), and they are VASTLY better than what you will find on Amazon, etc. Additionally, the Getzen 300s are well suited to the sort of back-up horns sound typical in the application you are talking about. Though certainly not the equivalent of a pro horn at 8 times the cost, a Getzen 300 will do everything that is needed for what you are describing, and Getzen has always built "student" to a much higher level.


What he said.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose someone should also point out that you said
Mike7300 wrote:
I don’t really know much of anything about trumpets


yet

Mike7300 wrote:
I’ll also need to perform with it in front of medium size crowds so I want it to at least sound decent.


The most important issue here is that its not the horn that will sound decent or not, its the player. So, step one is developing the knowledge of trumpet to sound decent (find a teacher?). After that, there are many options, with the aforementioned 300s being a good one.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used Yamaha student model trumpet. (IMO)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to check: is the OP able to play the trumpet? I think one should not underestimate the effort needed to get up to speed on trumpet even if it’s only for a few bars or a few pieces. Just in case: make sure to get a teacher, if you are not a brass player.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brassnose wrote:
Just to check: is the OP able to play the trumpet? I think one should not underestimate the effort needed to get up to speed on trumpet even if it’s only for a few bars or a few pieces. Just in case: make sure to get a teacher, if you are not a brass player.


This, this, this... "I'll practice for a couple days and sound fine..."

I smell trouble.. and poorly played trumpet parts..
How about hiring a trumpet player to cover parts in your band?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olds Ambassadors are a great choice; find one in good shape (no red rot, decent valve compression and minimal dents) and you have a time tested student horn that can be used professionally in the right hands. They also play relatively easy, and have a focused, bright sound all while being built like a tank.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me save you some time and hassle and money.

Ytr-2330.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trumptrevol wrote:
Let me save you some time and hassle and money.

Ytr-2330.

Okay I’ll bite. How will this save anyone “time and hassle and money”?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Trumpet Suggestion? Reply with quote

Mike7300 wrote:
It won’t get a ton of use but I want it to at least sound decent.

Gotta agree with Brassnose and Zaferis: that's not how the trumpet works. Unlike some instruments like piano, guitar or drums, you have to create the sound yourself using your mouth, and that takes practice. You could probably fool a crowd of non-musicians into thinking you can play guitar or piano with a few months of practice (being able to play say, 2 or 3 chords can make you sound quite nice especially if you sing along), but for trumpet you're out of luck.

Mike7300 wrote:
What do you suggest I buy?

If you're unable or unwilling to put in the practice hours, and getting a trumpet player for your gig is not an option, your best chance is probably to get a cheap Chinese copy (you can get them in several colors too) and fake playing while your keyboard player uses their synthesizer to mimic a trumpet sound.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for being the boring one here, but;

if you haven´t played before,
PLEASE GET A GOOD TEACHER!

If you don´t you´re bound to get those
bad habits that will follow you for ever!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rent.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the responses! I used to play clarinet back in the day but no never played trumpet so I’ll need some lessons for sure. My intent was not to buy a trumpet and think I can just be ready to play on stage right away. I like to learn different instruments so for me it’s a good learning opportunity. I’ve played guitar basically all my life but managed to learn some other instruments as well. And yes I will always go back to guitar as number one but it’s fun to learn new things!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any specific questions I should ask sellers on eBay if I go that route?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll restate my recommendation that you'd do well to rent for a few months. Maybe take a lesson or two, and see if that doesn't inform your decision.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheiden wrote:
I'll restate my recommendation that you'd do well to rent for a few months. Maybe take a lesson or two, and see if that doesn't inform your decision.

Even without the lessons, renting is a good inexpensive way to find out if you have the aptitude and enjoy playing the trumpet. Plus you will get a trumpet that is in playable condition, which is not guaranteed purchasing through eBay.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldSchoolEuph wrote:
I suppose someone should also point out that you said
Mike7300 wrote:
I don’t really know much of anything about trumpets


yet

Mike7300 wrote:
I’ll also need to perform with it in front of medium size crowds so I want it to at least sound decent.


The most important issue here is that its not the horn that will sound decent or not, its the player. So, step one is developing the knowledge of trumpet to sound decent (find a teacher?). After that, there are many options, with the aforementioned 300s being a good one.


I’m surprised it took as long as it did for someone to point this out.☝️☝️

Seriously, I was reading through the no doubt well intentioned horn suggestions and thinking “….wait a minute…..😳😳”

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a horn listed on Trumpet Herald, It's a Jupiter and in really good condition for under $150.00
You won't go wrong with it.

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