Is AR Resonance that good that one should try it ?

Claude1949 · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:26 am Post subject:

...maybe the maker in Italy can jut tell us what is an equivalent to the Curry 8.3 ???????
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anrapa · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:49 pm Post subject:

I wish I knew, Curry isn't very popular in Italy and I never had the opportunity to try that size.
Sorry!
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Claude1949 · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:06 am Post subject:

anrapa · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:58 am Post subject:

Well, mouthpiece comparison charts make no sense anyway.
As the idea of publishing an official diameter for a trumpet mouthpiece.
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delano · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:10 am Post subject:

In my 7C period I collected 7 sized (in Bach system) mp's for trumpet, flügel and cornet. I my experience the Curry pieces feel one size bigger than the Bach mp's. So when I bought a DC, VC, BBC for cornet and a B for trumpet (the 8.5C was way too bright), I ordered all of them as an 8.5. I never measured them because that makes not much sense but for me, the 8.5 Curry was the perfect 7 in size. Never used the Curry mouthpieces though, generally too bright or not enough body in sound (of course: for me). Years later I tried a Curry 3BC for trumpet but that one was also too bright and did not play very well (again: for me).
As a conclusion I can say with some ground that the 8.5 Curry mp's behave on the lips as a 7 Bach. Disclaimer: Bach mp's have a certain name for inconsistency in diameter so there maybe differences in size between them.

Claude1949 · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:39 pm Post subject:

I'll take the advice a few of you gave me- I'm sticking with my Curry!!!!!
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Claude1949 · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:02 am Post subject:

Claude1949 · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:34 am Post subject:

..also, I am NOT a technical person, I am musician and a lawyer, but my calipers say that the Curry 8.5 is smaller than any Bach 7C size....its more like a Bach 10 1/2....just saying.....
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improver · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 1455

Has anyone played the buffalo horn ARs? I just ordered one.

delano · Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:07 am Post subject:

improver · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 1455

I just got the AR resonance MC 40 with the 40 underpiece. Great mouthpiece and beautiful sound and so easy to blow. I couldnt believe how light the piece is. I got the Buffalo horn which I like, but I wish I had gotten the silver, the Buffalo horn is maybe not as resonant. Overall I love the piece.

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improver · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 1455

I think the AR site does a good job of describing it. Read their description. Since I dont have a metal one yet but I ordered a brass one today so I can give you a better idea when it comes. But comparing it to my metal B6s1 I would say it's not quite as resonant lol. A little more dead and dark, but I'm speaking relatively because it's a great sounding piece. I got the 40 MC top and 40M bottom. Love the balance. Its clearer cleaner than the Monette but not quite the volume. These AR might be the easiest playing mouthpieces I've ever played and I've played for 55 years. The one guy on here that describes them as perfect and he cant find fault. I feel the same way. The only thing I would say it's a lighter mouthpiece and maybe just a tad not slotty. Not much. But the blow resistance sound combination throughout the range of the instrument is second to none. The Buffalo horn is soft and lightish and doesnt feel like metal at all. It's great on the chops. But I would say if you flicked your finger off it as compared to metal it is more dead. I love the piece. It still has a lot of tone color.

Claude1949 · Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:32 pm Post subject:

improver · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 1455

Yes that's a fair comparison. Think of it as a big 7 c with a more open efficient blow. You know how Bach pieces have that resistance, the 40 mc with 40m backbore is free. Its deeper than the 3c more like the 7c and has a way better sound. I dont know how Tony pulls it off but it's the best blowing mouthpiece I've ever played. Its seamless in the way it plays and produces a sound with character, more than my b6s1.

Goby · Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Posts: 650

I thought MC was closer to a 3C? I play an MC 40, and it feels a touch smaller than my Pickett 3C, but that could be the rim profile. I was under the impression that MSC was roughly a 7C in AR sizes.

anrapa · Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:58 pm Post subject:

Geometrically speaking my MC is very close to a Bach 3C but the bigger throat and different backbores can change the feeling of it quite a bit.
As a rule of thumb the more open a mouthpiece is and the deeper the cup feels and the thinner the rim feels.
Weird, I know…

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improver · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 1455

Well that explains it. Tony gets the throat and backbore opened innsuch a way that makes the rim feel larger and the cup feel deeper. I totally but this. Because a 3c has always been a tad shallow feeling for me and the 40mc resonance feels deeper. I think also in what anrapa says is the fact that Tony hit the all time mouthpiece homerun in throat backbore cup rim synergy. Just amazing. It is resistance without feeling any impeeding resistance. Guys have been drilling throats out and changing baxkbores for years with stock pieces trying to find nirvana, and this guy has found it.