The trumpeters listed are Joe Newman, Snooky Young, Thad Jones, and Wendell Culley. But I cannot figure out which one played the solo. I tried my best, and I don't have the ears or experience to figure it out.
If you know, please tell me. However, if you don't, your guess is as good as mine (my guess is Thad Jones).
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Touring and other highlights:Featured soloist on such jazz classics as “Lil’ Darlin’” with Count Basie, as well as “Airmail Special” and Midnight Sun with Lionel Hampton. Appeared on radio, television and on film including: That’s the Spirit (1933), Murder with Music (1948), Count Basie at Birdland (1956), Count Basie on the Kraft Music Hall (1959), and Count Basie in Zurich (1959).
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:51 am Post subject:
Just because it brought it to mind. Another nice rendition of this piece was done by Frank Capp.
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They all sang together, one at a time . In fact, the solo was written by someone on the side with 99% probability. There were then and now composers who wrote all the music. It's challenging to play the role of performer and creator of music. Outsourcing is not a new concept, and they knew about it in music too. Unfortunately, there were no platforms with free audio sounds back then; maybe you wouldn't even have to write solos. I'm joking, of course, a good solo is complicated to write; it's crucial to understand in what form the song needs it, where to put the accents is a science, so many musicians, in principle, refuse to write a solo.
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:17 pm Post subject: Who played this solo?
this question and the replies have reminded me how much I miss the big band era and musicians that just, "got it." _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:35 am Post subject: Re: Who played this solo?
blbaumgarn wrote:
this question and the replies have reminded me how much I miss the big band era and musicians that just, "got it."
Yeah, same here. It's an era I grew up in and man do I miss it.
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Oh yes! Indeed. And I´m so blessed (I´ve recently learned... ) that I have had the good fortune to play in a Swingband already at the end of the 1960s! Writing solos? Listen to the entire trumpet section playing Bunny Berigans solo in Marie (Dorsey)......
Oh my, these guys certainly "got it" - that elusive 'gift' so unevenly distributed... Doesn´t help to tell yourself "Well, git it".....(although we played it once or twice, ruining my lips...).
These guys , they were so deep inside the music, were the music.
And Basie: the sheer power of Kid from Redbank.....(as you could read in many an old score ""sock it"...- or what was written in one tune, don´t remember which one, in the drummer´s score: "Hit everything at sight.." _________________ Cornets:
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:05 am Post subject: Lil' Darling
Here's a bit of trivia for you...Neil Hefti brought Lil' Darling into Birdland for Basie to hear his newest composition/arrangement. Hefti kicked it off at a tempo of 150 or so as that's what he had in mind when he wrote it. A few bars into the chart Basie stopped the band and told Hefti he would prefer the tempo much slower. MUCH slower. Basie kicked it off at what became the tempo the band recorded it and played it for many years after that. I know this to be true because my friend Snooky Young was there and told me the story.
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:32 pm Post subject: Who played this solo??
Thanks for the story, Tony. When you relate things in here it is much more to some of us. It is part of musical history, not just trivia, although it is darned good trivia. _________________ "There are two sides to a trumpeter's personality,
there is one that lives to lay waste to woodwinds and strings, leaving them lie blue and lifeless along a swath of destruction that is a
trumpeter's fury-then there is the dark side!" Irving Bush
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Who played this solo??
blbaumgarn wrote:
Thanks for the story, Tony. When you relate things in here it is much more to some of us. It is part of musical history, not just trivia, although it is darned good trivia.
Can tell that when the pro who helped me when my chops broke down giving me the first lessons of my life - died some years ago - the band he was rehearsing, in all its "big bandedness", stuffed into the church - played Lil´Darling in the very tempo that made it so gentle, so reflective and warm. Really filled both the building and our hearts.
William James Basie certainly had an ear for the soul of music!
Thanks Tony for sharing - music is more than just signs on a sheet. _________________ Cornets:
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Lil' Darling
Tony Scodwell wrote:
Here's a bit of trivia for you...Neil Hefti brought Lil' Darling into Birdland for Basie to hear his newest composition/arrangement. Hefti kicked it off at a tempo of 150 or so as that's what he had in mind when he wrote it. A few bars into the chart Basie stopped the band and told Hefti he would prefer the tempo much slower. MUCH slower. Basie kicked it off at what became the tempo the band recorded it and played it for many years after that. I know this to be true because my friend Snooky Young was there and told me the story.
My high school band director and jazz saxophonist, Wayne Chaffin, was a big Jimmie Lunceford, two-beat fan, so we always played "Lil' Darlin'" at an up-tempo as you described, Tony. We played dances for civic organizations and other schools. (early 1960s) _________________ C. G. Conn 60B Super Connstellation
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. In fact, the solo was written by someone on the side with 99% probability. There were then and now composers who wrote all the music. It's challenging to play the role of performer and creator of music. Outsourcing is not a new concept, and they knew about it in music too. Unfortunately, there were no platforms with free audio sounds back then; maybe you wouldn't even have to write solos. I'm joking, of course, a good solo is complicated to write; it's crucial to understand in what form the song needs it, where to put the accents is a science, so many musicians, in principle, refuse to write a solo.
) that I have had the good fortune to play in a Swingband already at the end of the 1960s! Writing solos? Listen to the entire trumpet section playing Bunny Berigans solo in Marie (Dorsey)......
