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SarahK New Member
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jhatpro Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2002 Posts: 10204 Location: The Land Beyond O'Hare
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:04 am Post subject: |
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An interesting find. I’ve owned several vintage Yorks although not that model. They were well made but, as with many vintage instruments, needed some repair and realignment.
Also to be considered, standard pitch in those days varied from modern 440 so you may have trouble getting it to play in tune with other instruments. _________________ Jim Hatfield
"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus
2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
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OldSchoolEuph Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:11 am Post subject: |
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I don't know what the model name was for those, but York sold a lot of them - more for stencil I think than in their own name (making minor tweaks to the appearance for the stores they stenciled them for).
The pluses:
-This was the golden age of York. Most anything they made was decent.
-Overall it is in pretty good shape
-That appears to be the Low Pitch (A=440) tuning slide
-Despite the many sold, few have survived as intact as this one
The minuses:
-It will only play in 2 of the 3 designed keys (I am not sure if that insert is for A or Bb. I believe it is the A insert, and there would have been a pigtail replacement leadpipe for the tuning slide to play in C)
-Someone demolished the tuning slide trying to get it unstuck and the amateurish repair with non-original parts is not aesthetically pleasing
-The valves are original - and York valves were buffed to fit and leaked from day 1. _________________ Ron Berndt
www.trumpet-history.com
2017 Austin Winds Stage 466
1962 Mt. Vernon Bach 43
1954 Holton 49 Stratodyne
1927 Conn 22B
1957 Holton 27 cornet
1985 Yamaha YEP-621
1975 Yamaha YEP-321 Custom
1965 Besson Baritone
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Andy Cooper Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2001 Posts: 1830 Location: Terre Haute, IN USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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This is 1916 but it looks pretty close.
https://www.yorkloyalist.com/1916catalog
Should you buy it?
As a collector's item and perhaps for restoration?
Yes.
York cornets had a very good reputation. Always nice to have reference horns around to compare with the sound of modern cornets.
To actually perform with in a concert band?
No.
There are plenty of very playable used cornets on e-Bay that will already have pretty tight valves , play in tune and that will accept modern cornet mouthpieces without alteration. |
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royjohn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 2272 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I would be careful of a York cornet that old. I have two from the oughts (~ '03) and both are completely unplayable because of leaky valves. They are put away for an eventual restoration. Yes, there are very nice period cornets when restored. _________________ royjohn
Trumpets: 1928 Holton Llewellyn Model, 1957 Holton 51LB, 2010 Custom C by Bill Jones, 2011 Custom D/Eb by Bill Jones
Flugels: 1975 Olds Superstar, 1970's Elkhardt, 1970's Getzen 4 valve
Cornet: 1970's Yamaha YCR-233S . . . and others . . . |
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