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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Subtropical and Subpar wrote: | Someone is desperate for attention. | Or a date. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Getzen Capri Cornet
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1862 Location: WI
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:14 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | Subtropical and Subpar wrote: | Someone is desperate for attention. | Or a date. |
It's a good thing you list your location as "Here and there". |
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Aspeyrer Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:52 am Post subject: |
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The best part is, you’ve proven to not know what it is your discussing. I sent you my number with the possibility you’d want to discuss, rather than troll. I’m happy to actually show you. But, you want to argue semantics.
I’m willing to cover the room, just as long as you keep pretending to be someone else.
Have you tried the unity piece? Didn’t you claim unless you had something to add, move on? Lol
Maybe Yamaha motor company can help you choose a better mouthpiece, right? |
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Subtropical and Subpar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2020 Posts: 615 Location: Here and there
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Halflip wrote: | kehaulani wrote: | Subtropical and Subpar wrote: | Someone is desperate for attention. | Or a date. |
It's a good thing you list your location as "Here and there". |
I know, right? And his projection is off the charts. In his mind everyone must disprove his specious notions while he must prove nothing. That's pretty well literally the definition of trolling. _________________ 1936 King Liberty No. 2
1958 Reynolds Contempora 44-M "Renascence" C
1958 Olds Ambassador
1962 Reynolds Argenta LB
1965 Conn Connstellation 38A cornet
1995 Bach LR18072
2003 Kanstul 991
2011 Schilke P5-4 B/G
2021 Manchester Brass flugel |
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Aspeyrer Veteran Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2019 Posts: 106
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Subtropical and Subpar wrote: |
I know, right? And his projection is off the charts. In his mind everyone must disprove his specious notions while he must prove nothing. That's pretty well literally the definition of trolling. |
Projection, touché
You are refusing to reach out and discuss. Offer is still open. |
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Subtropical and Subpar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 May 2020 Posts: 615 Location: Here and there
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:37 am Post subject: |
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To recap for others in this thread:
"Dave charging roughly 410X the cost of a mouthpiece seems a hard justification."
Unproven. When pressed, the commenter first tells me to disprove his assertion, then calls the claim hyperbole even though it clearly wasn't written as such, and later on calls the 410x claim my assertion. This is bad faith trolling personified.
"He makes claims that contradict themselves and literally offers no proof for his claims. He drives up the price for other makers."
Entirely unsubstantiated. Commenter refuses to elaborate.
" Let’s compare Yamaha with Monette; $30 versus $400 retail"
Yamaha mouthpieces haven't been $30 in a long time. Also why are we comparing not-gold-plated mouthpieces to gold-plated mouthpieces given how gold-plating adds anywhere from $60 to $100 to the cost of a mouthpiece from several popular makers? Commenter is unable to answer any of this.
Then commenter purposefully misquotes one of my earlier comments to make it appear as I made a math mistake. Too long to rehash here; it's on page 5 of this thread. Again, childish trolling.
"Also, a new Bach gp megatone is $159.99"
Not at WWBW. Or Prowinds. Not on Amazon. Or Music & Arts. Or Walmart. Or at most major retailers of Bach mouthpieces. Now, might there be someone somewhere willing to sell at a loss to clear inventory or bring people into the store? Of course - but the same can apply to Monette retailers, too. Commenter will of course refuse to accept this possibility, just as he refuses to acknowledge that in real dollars the cost of a Monette Unity mouthpiece is only 20% more expensive than the cost of a Monette mouthpiece in the mid-1990s. If only health care or education costs grew so slowly...
Now watch as said commenter once again evades all of this, tells me and others that we must continue to disprove his unsubstantiated pap and drivel, and probably give me his phone number another few times. _________________ 1936 King Liberty No. 2
1958 Reynolds Contempora 44-M "Renascence" C
1958 Olds Ambassador
1962 Reynolds Argenta LB
1965 Conn Connstellation 38A cornet
1995 Bach LR18072
2003 Kanstul 991
2011 Schilke P5-4 B/G
2021 Manchester Brass flugel |
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Trptguy Veteran Member
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 193 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Can we just move on please _________________ Seelan Manickam
Trumpet Faculty, Keene State College
Director, Keene State Orchestra
www.balabrass.org
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Daniel Barenboim Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Trptguy wrote: | Can we just move on please |
No
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DB |
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1862 Location: WI
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chef8489 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 850 Location: Johnson City Tn
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Subtropical and Subpar wrote: | To recap for others in this thread:
"Dave charging roughly 410X the cost of a mouthpiece seems a hard justification."
Unproven. When pressed, the commenter first tells me to disprove his assertion, then calls the claim hyperbole even though it clearly wasn't written as such, and later on calls the 410x claim my assertion. This is bad faith trolling personified.
"He makes claims that contradict themselves and literally offers no proof for his claims. He drives up the price for other makers."
Entirely unsubstantiated. Commenter refuses to elaborate.
" Let’s compare Yamaha with Monette; $30 versus $400 retail"
Yamaha mouthpieces haven't been $30 in a long time. Also why are we comparing not-gold-plated mouthpieces to gold-plated mouthpieces given how gold-plating adds anywhere from $60 to $100 to the cost of a mouthpiece from several popular makers? Commenter is unable to answer any of this.
Then commenter purposefully misquotes one of my earlier comments to make it appear as I made a math mistake. Too long to rehash here; it's on page 5 of this thread. Again, childish trolling.
"Also, a new Bach gp megatone is $159.99"
Not at WWBW. Or Prowinds. Not on Amazon. Or Music & Arts. Or Walmart. Or at most major retailers of Bach mouthpieces. Now, might there be someone somewhere willing to sell at a loss to clear inventory or bring people into the store? Of course - but the same can apply to Monette retailers, too. Commenter will of course refuse to accept this possibility, just as he refuses to acknowledge that in real dollars the cost of a Monette Unity mouthpiece is only 20% more expensive than the cost of a Monette mouthpiece in the mid-1990s. If only health care or education costs grew so slowly...
Now watch as said commenter once again evades all of this, tells me and others that we must continue to disprove his unsubstantiated pap and drivel, and probably give me his phone number another few times. |
Well in his defense on mouthpieceexpress.com gold megatone mouthpieces are 159.99. I just checked. Jwpepper has them for 161.99. _________________ Current horns
2023 Bach 19072G/43 pipe with 1st trigger
1966 H.N. White King Silver Flair
1965 H.N. White King Super 20 Sllversonic Symphony 1st trigger |
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kevin_soda Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2015 Posts: 558 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Where are the moderators and why is this post still active? _________________ Kevin |
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Ragnarok Regular Member
Joined: 21 Mar 2016 Posts: 31
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Monette Unity has united us in hating this whole freaking thread. |
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Nonprokingdom Regular Member
Joined: 18 Nov 2021 Posts: 32
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Subtropical and Subpar"]To recap for others in this thread:
"Dave charging roughly 410X the cost of a mouthpiece seems a hard justification."
Unproven. When pressed, the commenter first tells me to disprove his assertion, then calls the claim hyperbole even though it clearly wasn't written as such, and later on calls the 410x claim my assertion. This is bad faith trolling personified.
"He makes claims that contradict themselves and literally offers no proof for his claims. He drives up the price for other makers."
Entirely unsubstantiated. Commenter refuses to elaborate.
" Let’s compare Yamaha with Monette; $30 versus $400 retail"
Yamaha mouthpieces haven't been $30 in a long time. Also why are we comparing not-gold-plated mouthpieces to gold-plated mouthpieces given how gold-plating adds anywhere from $60 to $100 to the cost of a mouthpiece from several popular makers? Commenter is unable to answer any of this.
Then commenter purposefully misquotes one of my earlier comments to make it appear as I made a math mistake. Too long to rehash here; it's on page 5 of this thread. Again, childish trolling.
"Also, a new Bach gp megatone is $159.99"
Not at WWBW. Or Prowinds. Not on Amazon. Or Music & Arts. Or Walmart. Or at most major retailers of Bach mouthpieces. Now, might there be someone somewhere willing to sell at a loss to clear inventory or bring people into the store? Of course - but the same can apply to Monette retailers, too. Commenter will of course refuse to accept this possibility, just as he refuses to acknowledge that in real dollars the cost of a Monette Unity mouthpiece is only 20% more expensive than the cost of a Monette mouthpiece in the mid-1990s. If only health care or education costs grew so slowly...
Now watch as said commenter once again evades all of this, tells me and others that we must continue to disprove his unsubstantiated pap and drivel, and probably give me his phone number another few times.[/quote]
Looks like we have an amateur hack attacking a pro for their very benign comments.. I love how this happens from time to time on here. They have already addressed all your concerns, move back under your bridge. |
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Bryant Jordan Veteran Member
Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Posts: 410 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I started this thread because I was excited that there is a new tool available to trumpet players, IF they want to use it.
This isn't a negative thing at all. Don't be upset that something is priced higher than other things. Just don't buy it if you don't want to. |
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Daniel Barenboim Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ragnarok wrote: | Monette Unity has united us in hating this whole freaking thread. |
Just say no to unity!
😎
DB |
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SMrtn Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like Monette got the branding wrong on this one. Should have been "Fight Club".
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Trumpetingbynurture Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Daniel Barenboim wrote: | Ragnarok wrote: | Monette Unity has united us in hating this whole freaking thread. |
Just say no to unity!
😎
DB |
It's the American way! |
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Aw, NUTS. I was hoping that SMrtn's image of a smugly bemused "Unity" from Rick and Morty would be the final post. Such a perfect closer for this particular thread . . .
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Halflip Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:58 am Post subject: |
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SMrtn wrote: | |
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