Double tongue

Trumpjerele · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:22 am Post subject: Double tongue

Forgive my ignorance, but how necessary is the double tongue for popular music?
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cheiden · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:30 am Post subject:

I've found it very useful. I enjoy expanding my skill set so that I don't have to sweat or struggle when something tricky winds up on my stand.
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Trumpjerele · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:32 am Post subject:

Thanks Cheiden for your reply. I would like to know, in what musical style do you use it? I don't hear it in a big band, or in a smaller line-up, or in a brass section in a pop / funky band. I do hear it in mariachi music, for example.

I thought that not practicing this skill could hinder the development of other more necessary skills such as a clean staccato or a soft and light simple tongue.
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Andy Cooper · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:49 pm Post subject:

Depends. Should you join a community band it's handy for several marches. And you never know when the director will pass out Bugler's Holiday. It's just assumed that every trumpet player knows how to play it up tempo.

cheiden · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:04 am Post subject:

Billy B · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:24 am Post subject:

Jazz doodle tonguing is a variation of double tonguing.
Double tonguing is impossible unless you keep a steady air stream.
Double tonguing can be a useful tool for adjusting the embouchure.
Double tonguing can help with single tonguing.
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lipshurt · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:55 pm Post subject:

Double tongue comes up all the time in pop and Latin and big band etc.

Uptown funk I always double tongue that especially cuz some bands do it faster than the original. September I always double tongue the long string of 16ths. It’s not even slightly uncommon.

Latin also. For pretty slow moving notes it’s better to double tongue so you don’t have a chance of getting bogged down. It’s also important to be able to start on the the K when you have to come in on an upbeat. Things like carnaval which is not usually that fast still is way better double. It’s everywhere
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kehaulani · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:50 pm Post subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iJJI5viPVI
If an average trumpet player like Herb Alpert has to learn it, so do you.

BTW, we had to do this often with one community band I conducted, so even in homey settings like that there is no escaping.
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Trumpjerele · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:17 pm Post subject:

Thank you for bringing several examples here, I have enjoyed them, especially the big band of Gordon Goodwin !, how it sounds !!

Double tongue is much more common and useful than I thought, and it can also help with other skills. deserves more attention, I'll work on it. thanks for your comments.
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