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joevandal64
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:48 am    Post subject: Mouthpiece experience Reply with quote

I have been practicing a V Raptor with a Stork Vacchiano 5B mouthpiece. Both are acknowledged as good products. I have had the tuning slide out a little less than 1/2 inch to bring it in tune.
Once per week, I play duets. This week I brought the Stork 5B and my LeBlanc Symphonie II. I was painfully flat, about 20 cents flat on the tuner. My friend produced a Schilke 14. The LeBlanc was now about 20 cents sharp. I had to pull the tuning slide about 2 inches in order to bring the horn in tune.
I cannot understand why there would be such a tuning disparity in one horn between two quality mouthpieces.
Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could have something to do with how the mouthpieces are sitting in the receiver. That could be based on something with the receiver itself and/or the mouthpiece shanks. If that is the case, the Stork would have been sitting further out of the receiver, lengthening the horn to make it flat. The Schilke would have been sitting much further in, making the horn shorter.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cup depth can play a big part in pitch.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Mouthpiece experience Reply with quote

joevandal64 wrote:
I have been practicing a V Raptor with a Stork Vacchiano 5B mouthpiece. Both are acknowledged as good products. I have had the tuning slide out a little less than 1/2 inch to bring it in tune.
Once per week, I play duets. This week I brought the Stork 5B and my LeBlanc Symphonie II. I was painfully flat, about 20 cents flat on the tuner. My friend produced a Schilke 14. The LeBlanc was now about 20 cents sharp. I had to pull the tuning slide about 2 inches in order to bring the horn in tune.
I cannot understand why there would be such a tuning disparity in one horn between two quality mouthpieces.
Any ideas?


Early Selmers and some King trumpets had receivers reamed for smaller shanked mouthpieces. It's possible that the LeBlanc is set up the same way. Do you have an original LeBlanc trumpet mouthpiece to check measurments?
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