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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:34 pm    Post subject: Olds for lead? Reply with quote

In your experience, which Olds model/s works best for big-band lead?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 46 Super in the post which I expect will be amazing for this, but my main horn is a 62 Studio from Trent Austin/Austin Custom Brass and it can get nice and bright!!

I tracked all parts of this on it, and used 4 different Vennture mouthpieces (which helps make it sound like a real "section").

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olds Supers are excellent for that job. IMO, the most versatile horn in their line. My old pal Mike, an excellent lead player here in LA, swears by the bit of resistance he gets, the core and no lack for brightness to carry over the band.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say Olds Studio, or SuperStar for lead.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is worth noting it took me a moment to acclimate to the Olds resistance. It feels nice and open now, but I was trying to overblow it at first and it FOUGHT me. Once I found my feet it was super versatile.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just did the Addams Family using an Olds Ambassador and a CG Personal
and all of the lead part stuff just played itself

unfortunately the drummer's terrible time couldn't be helped
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

homebilly wrote:
i just did the Adams Family using an Olds Ambassador


Local pro loves Ambassadors for brighter, more lead orinted things - thanks for the reminder!! He has a few!!

I did maybe a hundred show band gigs on mine before giving it to a school. Great horn. We played rough bars, so I played a cheap horn (cost me £60 IIRC). Should have kept it!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this one was newly acquired for $40
$75 to have it acid dipped, re-corked and padded

it is a Fullerton Ambassador Deluxe from 1959 - 1960
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1968 Olds Super silver plated
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

homebilly wrote:
this one was newly acquired for $40
$75 to have it acid dipped, re-corked and padded

it is a Fullerton Ambassador Deluxe from 1959 - 1960


Beauty!! I'll own one again. I just got my impending Super chem cleaned. I cannot wait to get it!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just recently popped off and bought a surprisingly good condition 1947 Olds Super silver-plated and had recently gotten a late 60's Super last winter. I had several Super trumpets and cornets over the years and had the impression the earlier Supers were lighter and more responsive. After a quick clean and lube, I got the postage scale out and confirmed the older one is a quarter pound lighter, which makes it noticeably easy to "light up", but not nearly as much as the fixer up LA Mendez I am also checking out. I am not really a lead player as such, but I find those horns, as well as the older brass bell Olds Specials to be bright and responsive.

They there are the early 50's Conn 10B Victors......... sorry, off topic...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

homebilly wrote:
i just did the Addams Family using an Olds Ambassador and a CG Personal


You didn't use an Adams?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olds Opera
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, who's for the Custom, Recording, Recording Model Super, Standard, or French model? I think that covers all the catalogued models, except I think they designated one a Military modality! Just any old Olds in a pinch!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huntman10 wrote:
Just any old Olds in a pinch!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all you Ambassador fans: I just noticed Meridian Winds (user name sax-some set of numbers) has an Autrey-tweaked Ambassador listed on EBay.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OldSchoolEuph wrote:
For all you Ambassador fans: I just noticed Meridian Winds (user name sax-some set of numbers) has an Autrey-tweaked Ambassador listed on EBay.



oooooh! lemne take a look-see
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, the best Olds for big band lead style playing would be a Super. I've done plenty of lead style gigs on a Super Recording and it works great as well. I just think the Super is a little brighter and more focused which suits my approach to lead playing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're all good. Olds horns all seem to have a centered focused sound with plenty of overtones, like a good Bach or Calicchio. The Olds bell taper is pretty unique compared to other makes.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac Gollehon wrote:
Olds Opera

I have an Old Opera, and while it is a great horn, it seems to lean toward a more "legit" sound. I suppose, with the right mouthpiece, it might work as a lead horn. I do love the Nickel bell.
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